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re: OT- Lake Oconee Murders
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:58 am to Perrydawg
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:58 am to Perrydawg
Your ETA is interesting.
The empty lot is REM’s Mike Mills lot he bought in the 90’s but never developed. Correct? The article isn’t clear. Were the empty lot and Turkey travelers literally next door or down the street a way?
ETA- the killers wouldn’t necessarily know that neighbors were on vacation so I still don’t assume the killer’s boat was there all day.
Think about this as if you were doing it. What would you do? We aren’t all that different from one another.
The empty lot is REM’s Mike Mills lot he bought in the 90’s but never developed. Correct? The article isn’t clear. Were the empty lot and Turkey travelers literally next door or down the street a way?
ETA- the killers wouldn’t necessarily know that neighbors were on vacation so I still don’t assume the killer’s boat was there all day.
Think about this as if you were doing it. What would you do? We aren’t all that different from one another.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 12:01 pm
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Posted on 2/28/18 at 12:26 pm to deeprig9
I believe the lot was undeveloped plus these are acre plus lots so there is a decent amount of green space between homes. The killer wouldn't care about the neighbor or housekeeper because I believe that house is on the point looking out so there isn't a clear line of sight to the boat house, plus the houses are elevated from the water front which impedes line of sight. A boat going into and out of the mooring is going to arouse more suspicion than one parked at let at the dock.
now to the second part of your reply. If I was the one completing this act I would have to case the place or have very good intel on homeowners habits. Being that they were in their 80's that wouldn't take to long to figure out what they are doing on a daily basis. I would then slip into the dock at night and assuming this happened before wifi home security systems were big then figure out a way to disable the alarm and move into the house to still maintain the element of surprise. The only issue with this ( and I do not know if this house had this), but many of the houses alarm systems were tied to the guard shacks and could dispatch security in the event of the alarm going off, but if you disable the alarm system then the point would be moot).
Without the why this crime occurred I have a hard time formulating what would lead me to decapitate someone. If I was fishing for information then I would be likely to torture someone, but neither of the bodies showed signs of torture. The smashed finger tip of the headless corpse was ruled out as torture because the man suffered the injury during WWII according to the article. So if this is just a professional hit, and I am bringing back the head as proof of death then the garage is the best place to do this in the event I need to clean things up.
I would not have dumped the wife in the area she was dumped in because it is one of the most well fished spots on the lake due to the standing timber. there are enough areas along that side of the lake that are inaccessible by road that I would have just dumped the body there. I do believe that pros would know that 40 loads of weights arent going to be enough to keep a body submerged for any length of time one the H2S and other gasses start to build up. So I would have either gotten spooked and gotten the hell out of the area and just dumped the body on the way back to the launch point, but I would have to bring cinder blocks and rope because it is likely that at the age of the couple and the area they live in, there would be no supplies like that to use in a quick getaway.
So now I am planning on killing the husband and wife being that I would have brought the items, plus cinder blocks in a boat are easy to explain in the event I get pulled over by dnr as anchors for the boat as well as the rope for mooring lines or anchor lines.
TLDR: come in at night surprise the couple, do the deed because I am not looking for information or valuables. Take the head as proof of death and dump the wife to maybe buy sometime with police looking for her and to put distance between me and Eatonton, GA, but I would have picked a better dumping spot of the wife.
ETA: I was in Texas for work at the time of this killing so if the FBI are watching, I have a tight alibi and expense reports to prove my whereabouts.
now to the second part of your reply. If I was the one completing this act I would have to case the place or have very good intel on homeowners habits. Being that they were in their 80's that wouldn't take to long to figure out what they are doing on a daily basis. I would then slip into the dock at night and assuming this happened before wifi home security systems were big then figure out a way to disable the alarm and move into the house to still maintain the element of surprise. The only issue with this ( and I do not know if this house had this), but many of the houses alarm systems were tied to the guard shacks and could dispatch security in the event of the alarm going off, but if you disable the alarm system then the point would be moot).
Without the why this crime occurred I have a hard time formulating what would lead me to decapitate someone. If I was fishing for information then I would be likely to torture someone, but neither of the bodies showed signs of torture. The smashed finger tip of the headless corpse was ruled out as torture because the man suffered the injury during WWII according to the article. So if this is just a professional hit, and I am bringing back the head as proof of death then the garage is the best place to do this in the event I need to clean things up.
I would not have dumped the wife in the area she was dumped in because it is one of the most well fished spots on the lake due to the standing timber. there are enough areas along that side of the lake that are inaccessible by road that I would have just dumped the body there. I do believe that pros would know that 40 loads of weights arent going to be enough to keep a body submerged for any length of time one the H2S and other gasses start to build up. So I would have either gotten spooked and gotten the hell out of the area and just dumped the body on the way back to the launch point, but I would have to bring cinder blocks and rope because it is likely that at the age of the couple and the area they live in, there would be no supplies like that to use in a quick getaway.
So now I am planning on killing the husband and wife being that I would have brought the items, plus cinder blocks in a boat are easy to explain in the event I get pulled over by dnr as anchors for the boat as well as the rope for mooring lines or anchor lines.
TLDR: come in at night surprise the couple, do the deed because I am not looking for information or valuables. Take the head as proof of death and dump the wife to maybe buy sometime with police looking for her and to put distance between me and Eatonton, GA, but I would have picked a better dumping spot of the wife.
ETA: I was in Texas for work at the time of this killing so if the FBI are watching, I have a tight alibi and expense reports to prove my whereabouts.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 12:32 pm
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