re: SIAP UCF to hang a national championship banner in their stadium

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That rhetorical question doesn't cover enough

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That's fair... it wasn't mine to begin with... DisgracedB1G poster just seemed to be struggling to grasp a basic concept... was trying to help him out

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How about this scenario:

1. You have two teams that beat the same number of teams that finished ranked at the end of the season.
2. Team A went undefeated and won their conference.
3. Team B not only didn't go undefeated, they didn't even win their division.

Oh, throwing a "crystal ball look" at the above scenario, Team A was better than the team that beat Team B.

Which team should make the playoffs?

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Sure let's take a look at that... slight problem, your "crystal ball look" does not, in any capacity have any bearing, because the information was not available at the time the decision had to be made. You can only make the judgement based on facts in evidence... so looking at bullet points 1-3:

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1. You have two teams that beat the same number of teams that finished ranked at the end of the season.

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"finished ranked at the end of the season" is an interesting qualifier... what happens when say a ranked team loses a key player... say a starting QB... late in or after this game occurred... are we to discount the game because they sucked afterwards, or do we rate them based on where they were when the game was played.

At some point, you have to look at the quality of the wins AND losses in a holistic capacity.

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2. Team A went undefeated and won their conference.

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Again... caliber of opponent not included here. For example, undefeated and winning the Conference USA title is simply not a meaningful accomplishment when it comes to finding the best 4 teams in the country in and of itself.

Now... if the C-USA managed to have a bunch of ranked teams, or if said conference champion also scheduled say 2-3 P5 teams and beat them similarly to what they did in conference, that might help to build a case.

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3. Team B not only didn't go undefeated, they didn't even win their division.

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Again... what was the scenario that led them to miss out on their division title? Was this a 2 loss team for example? One loss? Who were the losses to? Who did they beat?


If you want to talk about not "covering enough", your hypothetical here is more lacking than the original. The original was quite simple...

If say USC decided... frick the Pac12... we're going independent and playing games against the Mountain West, C-USA, and FCS schools to round it out... does their undefeated season get them in the playoffs? We know they have P5 level talent... They just won their conference this year... So if in 2018 when they hypothetically do this, do they get a spot if the P5 conference champions are:
12-1
12-1
12-1
11-2
11-2

Assuming fairly "normal" P5 schedules for all of the above (affix conference to whichever record that you want *except* "your conference" is in one of the 11-2 spots).