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re: UPDATE: Mike Irwin just said Malzahn is choice #1.

Posted on 11/16/17 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 5:40 pm to
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This. I've seen a bunch of people say Norvell would get same or better results than Malzahn, there's no way to know that. Peoole are wanting the wrong Arkansas native.



True, but what we do know is Gus averages 8-5 with top 5 recruiting classes.

We also know Gus will not be able to recruit top 5 classes to Arkansas.

We do know that Norvell has elevated Memphis's recruiting above where Fuentes had it. We do know Norvell has recruiting connections in TN, AR, MS, TX, LA, AL, while Gus has connections in AL, and AR.
Posted by ThundrHawg
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 5:45 pm to
I hope we don't waste time trying to pry someone unreachable out while Norvell gets ripped out from under us. Just back the Brinks truck up to his house and bury his home in stacks of money and be done with it.
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:05 pm to
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We do know that Norvell has elevated Memphis's recruiting above where Fuentes had it. We do know Norvell has recruiting connections in TN, AR, MS, TX, LA, AL, while Gus has connections in AL, and AR.


We also know that it would take 5 mil to get Gus and 2.5 to get Norvell
Posted by OSqueal
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:05 pm to
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True, but what we do know is Gus averages 8-5 with top 5 recruiting classes.

We also know Gus will not be able to recruit top 5 classes to Arkansas.

We do know that Norvell has elevated Memphis's recruiting above where Fuentes had it. We do know Norvell has recruiting connections in TN, AR, MS, TX, LA, AL, while Gus has connections in AL, and AR.



This, this, a million times this.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 6:38 pm to
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True, but what we do know is Gus averages 8-5 with top 5 recruiting classes.

We also know Gus will not be able to recruit top 5 classes to Arkansas.

We do know that Norvell has elevated Memphis's recruiting above where Fuentes had it. We do know Norvell has recruiting connections in TN, AR, MS, TX, LA, AL, while Gus has connections in AL, and AR.




This is EXACTLY the point, everyone should take note. We know what Gus is capable of at an SEC program with top 10 classes. Sure an 8-5 average is a decent known commodity and it's certainly better than our recent average, but you can make an educated guess that his average would most likely be less than that here based off what we KNOW. You can sum it up as low risk, low reward.

Norvell might be an unknown commodity and could certainly fail, but we also don't have evidence that points to that possibility at this point. It's been said many times around here lately but the next great coach is out there somewhere, he just hasn't landed at that right spot at the right time. There's no reason Norvell couldn't be that great coach for Arkansas. He can be summed up as high risk, high reward.

We've gone the route of the experienced, proven HC and wound up no better off than before. I think it's time we take a risk and see what happens, we're basically playing with house money at this point.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 8:09 pm to
Gus would recruit an annual top 25 class here. If someone told you we would win 44+ games with 1 SEC title(possibly 2) in a 5 year span you would say no thanks to that? He's been to 3 SEC title games in the last 8 years he's been in the SEC as a coach. And he'll go to another if he beats Bama next week. He's a winner, plain and simple. 8-4 with 10+ win seasons mixed in every couple years is what we got with Petrino, people didn't seem to mind that. Gus system to made to adjust and overcome talent disadvantages. We'd average 40+ on offense next year guaranteed.

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We do know Norvell has recruiting connections in TN, AR, MS, TX, LA, AL, while Gus has connections in AL, and 


you act like Gus doesn't have connections in all those states and more. Gus probably has more connections in hs football than any coach in this region.
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