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With all this talk about Dan Mullen being a candidate for new job
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:07 pm
He returns vitually the entire team next year with depth and better players in key spots. He is making almost 5 million a year. His parents bought a house in Starkville. He has a DC he loves who has a son playing for Starkville High, a program that is very very good and his son is a rising star.
Why would you go to some big named program where if you don't kill it in the first several years, the fans start getting restless and call for his head? If that happened , he may never see 5 million a year again. His stock would go way down.
Now, having said all of that, Sexton is his new agent and there is where I worry. Sexton might get him an insane buyout clause.
Why would you go to some big named program where if you don't kill it in the first several years, the fans start getting restless and call for his head? If that happened , he may never see 5 million a year again. His stock would go way down.
Now, having said all of that, Sexton is his new agent and there is where I worry. Sexton might get him an insane buyout clause.
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:09 pm to MullenBoys
He’s going to be a Volololol
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:10 pm to MullenBoys
He stays because he likes pastures, illiteracy, and longevity.
He leaves to satisfy his ego and other non-bovine desires.
He leaves to satisfy his ego and other non-bovine desires.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:11 pm to Mr. Elvert
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He’s going to be a Volololol
If he leaves it won't be there.
One other thing, ever since he's been at Msu, every year we hear he is leaving. That's a lot of years. (Started by Ole Miss fans of course trying to influence recruiting).
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:19 pm to MullenBoys
Go to Florida and deal with Foley and the Ole Ball Coach trying to run the program or go to Tennessee where the Boosters think they run the program... not a tough choice at all. He isn't going anywhere.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:38 pm to TimeOutdoors
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Go to Florida and deal with Foley and the Ole Ball Coach trying to run the program or go to Tennessee where the Boosters think they run the program... not a tough choice at all. He isn't going anywhere.
See I agree. He has an AD here who has his back and that is huge. Penn State has been the only job I ever saw him leaving for if he ever did leave but that won't happen this year for sure. Whew.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:44 pm to MullenBoys
Because with all of that killer talent he has returning to state next year, he knows he will still be a mediocre team. Its fricking miss st dude, it shouldn't be too tough to figure out. Some people want to be the best at their craft and shoot higher than being a coach at miss st, which limits the amount of success you can have due to its disadvantages as a program in the sec. It's in the bottom 3rd of programs in the sec and that aint changing. Some people want to live somewhere other than starkville miss an coach at a bigtime program. Some coaches want to actually win a title and leave a legacy behind. Some coaches want to strive to be the best they can be. None of these will happen for mullen at state, ever. That's why he would leave state for a better program. Not saying he will, but if he plans on ever winning even an sec title, he should leave state, because we all know state will never win a title with the programs that it has to face every year. They're outclassed as a program man, period. Sure, they might win a game here and there when the other program overlooks them, but let's be real, they aren't going to go toe to toe with bama, lsu, auburn, texas am or even ole miss when they're cheating, lol, consistently. Just isn't gonna happen.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:47 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
You still butt hurt I see. Carry on.
I know you love him being at Msu don't you. You hope he stays 10 more years?
I know you love him being at Msu don't you. You hope he stays 10 more years?
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:54 pm to MullenBoys
Part of me thinks Dan can do better at a more traditional power.
However, part of me also believes Dan has a job that is a good fit for his personality and enjoys the lower pressure of only being expected to sneak up on someone now and then.
But he would also probably like a few more dining options.
However, part of me also believes Dan has a job that is a good fit for his personality and enjoys the lower pressure of only being expected to sneak up on someone now and then.
But he would also probably like a few more dining options.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 10:58 pm to MullenBoys
Almost lost to umass he will stay
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:02 pm to MullenBoys
No, not butthurt. Just giving an honest answer as to why mullen might want to leave state that's all. I mean, be honest, if dan was ambitious, and wanted to reach his potential as a coach, whatever that may be, don't you think he would have a better opportunity at doing that at a powerhouse football program overy miss st? That's all I was getting at. He may be happy where he is and not care about titles and all that, idk, but if he does, he will have to go to a bigtime program man. Winning a title at state is damn near impossible with the programs they have to compete against, its not gonna happen. Which is why it hasn't happened, not just in football, in any sport. That should tell you something. The programs state has to compete with year in and year out in its own division are lightyears ahead and have way more money and better recruiting footprints. It's just that simple. Not trying to smear state at all, just providing facts and reasons why dan may want to go to greener pastures where he can flourish, even though he may love it in stsrkville and have it made in the shade. Thanks for the downvote, and I'm the butthurt one? Lol.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:13 pm to MullenBoys
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My question is, if Mullen takes the UF job, will you change your name or your school loyalty? Thorny question, right?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:16 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
Hey wake up. You claim Msu has never had a shot at a NT in any sport because that's the way it is.
For many years we had AD's who did not put much into sports. Any Msu fan will tell you that history. That has changed. MSU played for a natty a few years ago in baseball. We played for a natty last year in womens hoops.
It's a slow process but Msu fans, bulldog club etc DEMAND more now. A lot has changed and I can assure you State is slowly catching up on numerous grounds in athletics. Our current recruiting class is ranked top 15. Been a long time since I saw that.
We have expanded our stadium 3 times in football and built facilities which rival most if not better than in the Sec. You keep thinking that.
For many years we had AD's who did not put much into sports. Any Msu fan will tell you that history. That has changed. MSU played for a natty a few years ago in baseball. We played for a natty last year in womens hoops.
It's a slow process but Msu fans, bulldog club etc DEMAND more now. A lot has changed and I can assure you State is slowly catching up on numerous grounds in athletics. Our current recruiting class is ranked top 15. Been a long time since I saw that.
We have expanded our stadium 3 times in football and built facilities which rival most if not better than in the Sec. You keep thinking that.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:22 pm to randomways
Mullen would be an idiot if florida offered him the job and he stayed at miss state, a complete fool. You don't just say, well I have it made here at state where I can just make a bowl game and keep my job, all I have to do is beat lsu 1 time in 10 years, and I keep my job. I'm sure dan wants more out of his coaching career than simply settling for that at state. He wants to be known as a bigtime coach that coached and won against the best, possibly winning a title to solidify his status forever. All coaches do, and thats why coaches leave for bigger programs all the time. I look at mike rilet at oregon st, he loved it there and could have retired there, but when nebrass came calling, he jumpedophile ship in att heartbeat. It's furthering your career and moving to another institution that gives you the tools you need to show your coaching prowess. Will it definitely work out? No, but that's the risk coaches take to be considered the best at what they do. I'm sure dan has aspirations of winning titles, all coaches do. Like i said, mullen would be a fool if florida offered and he stayed at state, hell, even if tennessee offered, he should go in a heartbeat. They're just bigger and better jobs.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:27 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
You don't even know your own history. Mullen has beat you twice since 2014. Furthermore, lost a game by 2 points and another by a FG. And going back to just his second year, was a deflected pass by Chad Jones coming up on line of scrimmage from beating you with a TE wide open in the endzone from the 2 yard line. I think I know why you hope he bolts lol.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:29 pm to MullenBoys
The facility race is an ongoing battle man. They may have nice facilities, I'm sure they do actually, but so does every other sec program besides vandy. Kentucky has an awesome football complex now that they just built. You know what they don't have though? Trophies in their trophy case, they don't have the sustained success over many many years that they can show recruits. Also, they don't have the rich history of showing potential recruits how many players have gone pro from their program. Those are the main things recruits look at. Gsmeday atmosphere also plays a huge part into recruiting. It's more than just wanting to do better, you have to actually do it. Mullen hasn't had any hardware he can show recruits at all like lsu bama and auburn can. That's the big difference. Stste has improved though under mullen, I will give you that, but at what point is the ceiling reached? I believe it was reached a few years back when state was in the orangebowl with dak. It will take a miracle for state to overcome the disadvantages it has being in the sec west, a miracle.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:34 pm to MullenBoys
LSU overlooks state. They also catch us early in the year. So we best you by 30 or 1 point? What's the difference? State isn't close to being the program LSU is man and will never be. Just stop it. Theres nothing wrong with being miss st, just don't act like somehow miss st is in any way on par with LSU as a program. You bet us this year, congrats. You were the better team when we played, congrats. You want to bet on who still get the better recruiting class though? Or who wins what in our next 10 games? Didn't thinks so. You realize if LSU really really wanted dan mullen, we could have him right? I'll leave it at that. Though you prob think he would stay in starkville at miss st rather than live in br coaching frickin LSU. Come on now.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:38 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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Mullen would be an idiot if florida offered him the job and he stayed at miss state, a complete fool. You don't just say, well I have it made here at state where I can just make a bowl game and keep my job, all I have to do is beat lsu 1 time in 10 years, and I keep my job. I'm sure dan wants more out of his coaching career than simply settling for that at state. He wants to be known as a bigtime coach that coached and won against the best, possibly winning a title to solidify his status forever. All coaches do, and thats why coaches leave for bigger programs all the time. I look at mike rilet at oregon st, he loved it there and could have retired there, but when nebrass came calling, he jumpedophile ship in att heartbeat. It's furthering your career and moving to another institution that gives you the tools you need to show your coaching prowess. Will it definitely work out? No, but that's the risk coaches take to be considered the best at what they do. I'm sure dan has aspirations of winning titles, all coaches do. Like i said, mullen would be a fool if florida offered and he stayed at state, hell, even if tennessee offered, he should go in a heartbeat. They're just bigger and better jobs.
How ambitious is Mullen, though, really? Maybe he's satisfied being a multimillionaire with a multi-million dollar annual salary and one of the most stable jobs in the SEC. Sure, we can assume all HCs have some ambition, but even among HC, some have more ambition than others. I'm obviously not a college HC, but, speaking for myself, if Vandy offered me the job and I could take it knowing that I'd have a secure place to earn millions with middling expectations and little drama, I'd think long and hard about choosing, say, the Bama job over that.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:39 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
Well hell, keep overlooking us then if that's your excuse.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 11:44 pm to randomways
I see that argument. If a coach is really that satisfied with not winning anything of significance, I could see that. However, most coaches do want to win championships, and do realize that winning one at a certain program just isn't in the cards like it is at another. You then have to look at the leadership at a program that allows a coach to win no titles and keep his job making millions and millions. How ambitious are they as a program really? If they re simply satisfied with 8-4 7-5 seasons then they're the ones to blame for letting a coach get over on them like that. Either that, or theyre realistic and realize that it's the best their program can do in their situation. That's my whole point in this.
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 11:50 pm
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