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re: How Would TCU Finish This Year If They Were In The SEC?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Where would you rank Oklahoma this year if they were in the SEC?
A close #2 behind Alabama
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How Would TCU Finish This Year If They Were In The SEC
In the West? 8-4, 4-4. Behind Alabama, Auburn and LSU, similar to MSU and ahead of Arkansas, Ole Miss and A&M.
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:58 pm to Not Afraid of Bama
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You refuse to accept that any conference besides the SEC has ever been dominant in football when facts clearly state other wise
No, what I am saying is the SEC (from the early days in the 1930's) was the deepest conference. I am not disagreeing that other teams in other conferences were not dominant in any given year. Just they do not have lots of them.
KSU without snyder was an easy win
ISU was an easy win
KU without the fat guy was an easy win
OSU pre T Boone was a fairly easy win
Baylor before the rapist took over was an easy win
Colorado, Missouri, and Texas A&M are not elite football schools
Texas Tech should be better but never seems to get it done
Lots of schools to pad the stats of texas and Oklahoma over the decades.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:59 pm to texag7
big 12 is the second best conference this year. congrats on being the tallest midget.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:03 pm to Cheese Grits
Oklahoma played Nebraska, and Texas, every year, for decades. Alabama is the only "blue-blood" that has never shared a conference with another blue-blood, or had one scheduled every year as an OOC rivalry opponent. Talk about "padding stats"......
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:06 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Wow, slow your roll, bro. Both of those teams have very good defenses.
So does Ohio State.
And what would we know about Auburn's defense?
Auburn just held the defending national champs to 14 points while playing AT CLEMSON. Sure, their offensive line allowed a record number of sacks. But that defense is pretty good. If Auburn gets their line issues sorted out, they are a very dangerous team.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:08 pm to CharlotteSooner
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They don't give up 421 yards passing to Ole Miss or 400 yards passing to Arkansas either.
Who gave up these in 2017?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:09 pm to CharlotteSooner
I remember the 1991 Gator Bowl
Ole Miss a decent SEC team that year was completely humiliated by Michigan.
I think Michigan won only like 35-3 but they put over 700 yards on them
Ole Miss coach Billy Brewer said that he never played a team that good ever
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Ole Miss a decent SEC team that year was completely humiliated by Michigan.
I think Michigan won only like 35-3 but they put over 700 yards on them
Ole Miss coach Billy Brewer said that he never played a team that good ever
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:12 pm to TxTiger82
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Wow, slow your roll, bro. Both of those teams have very good defenses.
They said that about Auburn before the Sugar Bowl last year....they just said that about Ohio St.
OU offense picks them apart
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:13 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Oklahoma played Nebraska, and Texas
Calling Nebraska a "blue blood" is a stretch. Take out the 90s, and they have two titles to their name.
Also, one has to question the "toughness" of their conference when they're #2 in winning %, but a losing bowl record. Nebraska padded some stats there my friend.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I'm not so sure they wouldn't finish ahead of Auburn. There's trouble brewing in the plains.
8-4, 4-4. Behind Alabama, Auburn and LSU,
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:18 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Alabama is the only "blue-blood" that has never shared a conference with another blue-blood
Historically, the other "blue blood" in the SEC is Tennessee. If they counted non-AP/UPI, they could claim probably 4 legitimate championships (which means they were *probably* the best team that year) -- 1938, 1950, 1951, 1998.
You might notice that I am claiming Tennessee was better than OU in 1950. That year, Tennessee played 3 ranked teams and beat #3 Texas in the bowl game. Oklahoma played 3 ranked teams, but lost to #7 Kentucky in their bowl game. Tennessee also beat the one common opponent (Texas) by a wider margin than Oklahoma did. Conclusion: Tennessee was the better team in 1950. Oklahoma was basically handed the title based on the previous season (1949), in which they went undefeated but played a soft schedule compared to consensus national champs Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:18 pm to skrayper
I totally agree but for different reasons
No blue blood programs turns into a minnow and turns tail and run.
Once Nebraska ran away from the Big XII and blamed all their problems on UT and OU then their blue blood status was revoked.
Regarding the Big 8 I believe CU's ability to win in the PAC 12 disproves this now. I think last year it would have been different but CU is one of the Top 5 teams in the PAC 12 now.
Missouri winning the SEC East Title two years in a row
No blue blood programs turns into a minnow and turns tail and run.
Once Nebraska ran away from the Big XII and blamed all their problems on UT and OU then their blue blood status was revoked.
Regarding the Big 8 I believe CU's ability to win in the PAC 12 disproves this now. I think last year it would have been different but CU is one of the Top 5 teams in the PAC 12 now.
Missouri winning the SEC East Title two years in a row
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:20 pm to BigRDawg17
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They said that about Auburn before the Sugar Bowl last year....they just said that about Ohio St.
We said it about LSU in 2003 but you didn't believe us. "Greatest offense in college football history," we were told. LOL. Jason White was easily the weakest Heisman winner of the decade, and that offense didn't do fricking shite against THE MOST TALENTED DEFENSE in the country that year.
Just a reminder of how the SEC plays ball.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:23 pm to TxTiger82
Watch the 2003 Rose Bowl
USC/ Michigan
Michigan went into that game with a high powered offense and was completely embarrassed.
LSU benefited from the BCS. I think SC/LSU would have been a much better game.
Not saying LSU wouldn't have won but USC was clearly the best team after the bowls had finished.
USC/ Michigan
Michigan went into that game with a high powered offense and was completely embarrassed.
LSU benefited from the BCS. I think SC/LSU would have been a much better game.
Not saying LSU wouldn't have won but USC was clearly the best team after the bowls had finished.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:29 pm to Not Afraid of Bama
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I remember the 1991 Gator Bowl
Ole Miss a decent SEC team that year was completely humiliated by Michigan.
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Ole Miss
Using an Ole Miss team from over 25 years ago is about as week as it gets.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:30 pm to skrayper
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Calling Nebraska a "blue blood" is a stretch. Take out the 90s, and they have two titles to their name.
And why do you think that is?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:32 pm to Not Afraid of Bama
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Watch the 2003 Rose Bowl
USC/ Michigan
Michigan went into that game with a high powered offense and was completely embarrassed.
LSU benefited from the BCS. I think SC/LSU would have been a much better game.
Not saying LSU wouldn't have won but USC was clearly the best team after the bowls had finished.
Wrong.
1) LSU had the best coach in CFB history (Nick Saban). Time has more or less made that point apparent for us, although it is unfortunate he didn't stick around Baton Rouge.
2) LSU was BY FAR the most talented team in the country that year. USC's talent was very overrated, while LSU's talent was very underrated.
USC guys like Matt Leinart, Big Mike Williams, and Lendale White all had short-lived NFL careers because they were mediocre players.
Meanwhile, LSU guys like Michael Clayton, Devery Henderson, Andrew Whitworth, Rudy Niswanger, and Stephen Peterman went on to much longer and more successful careers. Hell we had guys like Dwayne Bowe and Joseph Addai ON THE BENCH.
And that's just offense ... the real difference in talent comes on the defense, where LSU had a significant talent advantage. Corey Webster, Laron Landry, Kyle Williams, Marquis Hill ... these guys were FAR SUPERIOR to USC's offensive players.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:36 pm to TxTiger82
Pete Carroll for his short time in college football outperformed Nick Saban.
You may agree or disagree but saying that Saban at that time was better than Carroll would have been a stretch.
USC beat a better OU team the next year.
USC a year younger was still better than an OU team a year younger by 30+ points
You may agree or disagree but saying that Saban at that time was better than Carroll would have been a stretch.
USC beat a better OU team the next year.
USC a year younger was still better than an OU team a year younger by 30+ points
Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:53 pm to Not Afraid of Bama
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Pete Carroll for his short time in college football outperformed Nick Saban.
Pete Carroll was a great college coach, its true. But I'll take Nick Saban any day for the college game.
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USC beat a better OU team the next year.
That has little to do with 2003, when LSU was the superior team. Nobody is arguing against the fact that USC was the best team in 2004 -- you'll have to find an Auburn fan for that conversation.
The facts are pretty clear, LSU's talent was head and shoulders above USC's talent. USC won a soft conference and were the media darlings. But LSU would have shut them down they way they shut every team down that year.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:11 pm to CharlotteSooner
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Oklahoma played Nebraska, and Texas, every year, for decades. Alabama is the only "blue-blood" that has never shared a conference with another blue-blood, or had one scheduled every year as an OOC rivalry opponent. Talk about "padding stats"......
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