I don't know where it comes from today...but:
LSD was first made by Albert Hofmann in Switzerland in 1938 from ergotamine, a chemical from the fungus ergot.
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2. Cocaine is a concentrated form of alkalines extracted from the leaves using other chemicals and made into a paste in a lab. People have been chewing the leaves for thousands of years with no ill effects.

Question. Does it come from a plant, or not? Yes, it does. I am not arguing that it is not processed. I am arguing that it comes from a plant. It does.

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2. Heroine is a female hero, not derived plant. Heroin is made from the sap of a flower in a lab. See cocaine above.

Heroin was first made by C. R. Alder Wright in 1874 from morphine, a natural product of the opium poppy.

plant.

I have just showed they they do come from plants. Than you. Just because something comes from a plant does not make it safe, nor does it make it legal. To imply otherwise is being dishonest, and you know it.

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Fungus is not considered a plant. Scientists are not sure whether to classify it as a plant or animal, so my point about LSD is wrong.

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Posted by djsdawg

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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:48 am to DawgsLife

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Just because something comes from a plant does not make it safe, nor does it make it legal. To imply otherwise is being dishonest, and you know it.

But we are talking about weed and not those things. Huge difference between them.

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Posted by TMDawg

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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:50 am to DawgsLife

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I don't know where it comes from today...but: LSD was first made by Albert Hofmann in Switzerland in 1938 from ergotamine, a chemical from the fungus ergot.

A fungus, not a plant. And also it's made from ergotamine, there is a ton of chemistry involved in that which has to be done in a lab and is very 'not naturally occurring.' Ergotamine is simply a precursor.

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Posted by Peter Buck

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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:51 am to DawgsLife

Drug enforcement is a huge cash cow for the law enforcement industry. This is not even up for debate. It may not help the front line guys, but then again, not many E-4s are getting rich off the war on terror, but Lockheed Martin is...

I think the irony with marijuana vs opioids is that I could grow marijuana and make use of it without a chemist or the help of the government.

Yet, I can legally hit my head repeatedly against other big dudes heads for free college and if I get hurt, Ron C can hook me up with highly addictive opioids.... but I can't grow marijuana and smoke it in my dorm at 3am cause it's dangerous....

Seriously, we have lost our fricking minds....

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Posted by Barstools

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Posted on 5/3/17 at 8:59 am to DawgsLife

You realize fungi are not plants, right? Or Are you doubling down on the dumb.

And I never said heroin and cocaine didn't come from a plant. I said they have to be processed in a lab. Heroin and cocaine are no the natural form of the plant. Also heroin and morphine are different. Heroin has chemicals added to it to make it enter your blood quicker. You cannot compare a chemically altered substances to an natural substance without looking like an idiot.

Marijuana is used it its unaltered natural form. If you are comparing that to processed chemicals I cannot help you. You have the reasoning skills of a fungus.

EDIT:, I see you other post, you acknowledged you were wrong about LSD.

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