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re: Question about Freeze and those coaches that wear their faith so openly

Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:16 pm to
Faith is a tough thing to measure... i mean you might could use circumstances, brain waves, brain imaging, polling data, and come up with some obscure theory of God that you think is measureable... but the core belief doesn't change (faith in God) The only thing that might be up for debate is translations in the literature. How one interprets the meaning of the written word. We aren't doing math and having to form "proofs" to test the theory. We use faith. How can some not understand this? I'm not gonna try to convince you... i can point you in the right direction. I'll tell you a little about what I believe if you are interested but not on a blog, if you don't want to believe it that is fine. I'm not an evangelical and i'm not gonna tell you that you are going to hell either because i too myself have my doubts and it isn't my place to judge your faith or beliefs in God. I'll gladly live my life believing that we have a creator and that if i follow some basic rules of not being a jackass that if there is a heaven then the benefits outweigh the risks. Do you like ice cream?
Posted by drm185
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 4:58 pm to
yatesdog38,

being a good person or in your words following "some basic rules of not being a jackass" will not get you into heaven, though this is commonly preached as if it were the gospel.

Why do you think Jesus, the third person of the trinity, would utterly humiliate himself and become a man and fool around with keeping every commandment and living a sinless life and suffer death on a cross if all it takes for us to enter heaven is "being a good person"? The premise of the bible is that even the best of us are not "good people" at the core and we need a savior. The message is that jesus lived the life we should have lived and died the death we should have died. Jesus was literally forsaken by the Father so that we wouldn't have to be.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 7:27 pm to
I really don't care what people believe. They can believe in whatever mythology that makes them feel better. I don't understand it, but I'm not against them doing it.

What I am against is anyone trying to demand that others also follow their beliefs of try to get specials rules made by the government for their beliefs. For instance, creationism has no business being taught in public schools unless of course it is a world religion class of some sorts and all major religions are covered just the same way. science classes definitely have no business teaching creationism.

Believe in Jesus, believe in The Flying Spaghetti Monster, believe that Bigfoot is a god. Just don't expect me to believe it too without presenting me some concrete evidence to support it. Faith is not evidence.
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