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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:09 am to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:09 am to fibonaccisquared
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5* offensive recruits under Muschamp:
QB, OT, RB
4* offensive recruits under Muschamp:
TE, RB, QB, WR, WR, OG, TE, TE, RB, QB, WR, WR, WR, WR, QB, OT, ATH, WR
Or in other words 4 QB, 3 RB, 3 TE, 3 OL, 7 WR, and an ATH (QBish Treon). 21 over 4 years.
I'm not going to dance around these issues with you because I literally just posted your line -- four upperclassmen vs. our four underclassmen. There's literally nothing else to say after that for the OL.
As for Star Counts: Can you name any of those players that actually did well while at Florida on offense?
Recruiting, in part, is about development. He had the luster of Florida, but nothing after that. His final year he was suffering major losses in recruiting and was subsequently fired as a result.
And even with all of that ''offensive talent'' that you so humbly pointed out, he still posted the same numbers that McElwain has the last two years because...
Wait for it...
He couldn't fricking recruit offense and harness the talent for anything.
No idea why we have so many Georgia fans crawling all over these threads to try and say their team isn't recruiting well, or it's young when you guys have outrecruited us the last three years.
Not that it helped you any.
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:18 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Hey, I'm as shocked as anyone that I agree with TJ on anything... 
I'm not trying to be strictly argumentative, I just think it's interesting that you're not willing to concede that he has any point whatsoever. Many of UF's offensive woes stemmed from poor OC choices... Roper was only there the last year, right?
Not the same thing as not recruiting well. It's not like he went out and landed 4/5* athletes that no one else wanted.. he swung, he evaluated, he landed them... at a higher clip than Mac.
No... *Coaching* is in part about development. Recruiting is strictly about talent accumulation. Get guys with the right body types, the right skill sets, and hopefully the right personal characteristics, and then *coach* them up. You can fault Muschamp and Co for not coaching the guys up once they got onto campus, but to try and equate Muschamp's recruiting to Mac's is doing Champ a disservice... he might not do much right, but he does recruit well.
I'm not sure why you're taking this so personally? It's a message board... for discussion purposes. If you don't enjoy discussing things and you just want to hear people agree with you, the Florida board is calling your name...
Who's trying to say we haven't recruited well? We have roster deficiencies. Recruiting rankings do not account for this. As you mentioned from Muschamp's recruiting days, not every recruit pans out the way you hope. We haven't recruited OL (and in some ways WR) particularly well for the last 5-8 years I'd say, most of the last half of Richt's tenure basically. This year, one would hope the haul we brought in will make a pretty big change there. As far as the last 3 years, only one of those is on Smart, and there's a reason Richt isn't here any longer. With regards to the future on field results, we'll see what happens come fall I suppose...
I'm not trying to be strictly argumentative, I just think it's interesting that you're not willing to concede that he has any point whatsoever. Many of UF's offensive woes stemmed from poor OC choices... Roper was only there the last year, right?
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As for Star Counts: Can you name any of those players that actually did well while at Florida on offense?
Not the same thing as not recruiting well. It's not like he went out and landed 4/5* athletes that no one else wanted.. he swung, he evaluated, he landed them... at a higher clip than Mac.
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Recruiting, in part, is about development. He had the luster of Florida, but nothing after that. His final year he was suffering major losses in recruiting and was subsequently fired as a result.
No... *Coaching* is in part about development. Recruiting is strictly about talent accumulation. Get guys with the right body types, the right skill sets, and hopefully the right personal characteristics, and then *coach* them up. You can fault Muschamp and Co for not coaching the guys up once they got onto campus, but to try and equate Muschamp's recruiting to Mac's is doing Champ a disservice... he might not do much right, but he does recruit well.
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No idea why we have so many Georgia fans crawling all over these threads to try and say their team isn't recruiting well, or it's young when you guys have outrecruited us the last three years.
Not that it helped you any.
I'm not sure why you're taking this so personally? It's a message board... for discussion purposes. If you don't enjoy discussing things and you just want to hear people agree with you, the Florida board is calling your name...
Who's trying to say we haven't recruited well? We have roster deficiencies. Recruiting rankings do not account for this. As you mentioned from Muschamp's recruiting days, not every recruit pans out the way you hope. We haven't recruited OL (and in some ways WR) particularly well for the last 5-8 years I'd say, most of the last half of Richt's tenure basically. This year, one would hope the haul we brought in will make a pretty big change there. As far as the last 3 years, only one of those is on Smart, and there's a reason Richt isn't here any longer. With regards to the future on field results, we'll see what happens come fall I suppose...
Posted on 2/12/17 at 12:44 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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literally just posted your line -- four upperclassmen vs. our four underclassmen. There's literally nothing else to say after that for the OL.
You think upperclassmen automatically equals quality? You just aren't very smart.
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