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Scientists Release Incredible Image of a Four Planet System

Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:28 pm
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It's amazing how fast the technology is evolving for the direct imaging of other solar systems and their planets. The link describes a four planet system of Jupiter size worlds in a very young solar system.

It seems like just yesterday that the first exoplanet was observed. Now we're peering directly at them. Their atmospheres will be analyzed for comparison to our own gas planets. Soon, I'm sure, scientists will be directly imaging earth-size planets and analyzing their atmospheres as well.

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A short video shows the movement in a system of planets about 129 light-years away from ours. The planets' orbits seem to be in resonance, producing a wonderful visual effect.


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Located about 129 light-years from Earth in the direction of the Pegasus constellation is the relatively young star system of HR 8799. Beginning in 2008, four orbiting exoplanets were discovered in this system which – alongside the exoplanet Formalhaut b – were the very first to be confirmed using the direct imaging technique.


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Astronomers will also be able to take spectra of these planet’s atmospheres to study their composition and compare this to our own Solar System’s gas giants. And since the system is really quite young (just 40 million years old), it can tell us much about the planet-formation process.

Posted by CowTownReb
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 6:11 pm to
Thanks. Need to check this out.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 6:27 pm to
Cool as hell.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 6:38 pm to
How can we find this, but not all the planets in our own solar system?
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:30 pm to
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How can we find this, but not all the planets in our own solar system?
Because it's easier to see a star?
Posted by Tropic Lightning
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:54 pm to
Because it's bullshite conjured up by hypothetical mathematical equations and computer graphics.

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Posted on 1/31/17 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:23 pm to
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How can we find this, but not all the planets in our own solar system?


Well, Planet 9's orbit is so far out that it could take as long as 20,000 years for it to circle the sun once. We know it's out there somewhere because of its perturbations of the Kuiper Belt.

Its gravity is significant and will ultimately expose its location. Then we'll be able to study its characteristics and determine whether it was pushed out of a closer orbit of the sun or is a "rogue planet" that was captured by the sun's gravity.

Technology is advancing at a blazing speed here on earth and we are now constantly making dramatic discoveries in our solar system, galaxy and Universe. This leads us to make the mistake of underestimating the size of structures in the Universe.

The current estimate of the sphere's diameter that is dominated by our sun's gravity is some two light years. Can you imagine that size? I can't. Nor can I imagine the visual size of a dark body that takes 20,000 years to orbit the sun, even if its actual size is comparable to that of Jupiter.

Jupiter is about 484 million miles from the sun and takes 12 years to orbit once. With an orbital period of 20,000 years, Planet 9 should be about 807 billion miles from the sun, or 1,667 times as far away as Jupiter. That's a great distance, indeed, to be looking for a body that doesn't generate light!

Find it, though, our astronomers will. I think in about a year, maybe even just a few months, we'll hear of their success. Isn't it fascinating to imagine what this planet could be like? Especially if it formed in another solar system.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 9:15 pm to
That's pretty awesome
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 10:47 pm to
Considering that the James Webb Space Telescope won't launch until October, 2018, yes this is awesome. Astronomers are tweaking existing telescopes, including Hubble even, to get these incredible images and videos.

When the JWST sets up in space, the word incredible just won't suffice. Unimaginable will be used instead. Can't wait.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 9:13 am to
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Its gravity is significant and will ultimately expose its location. Then we'll be able to study its characteristics and determine whether it was pushed out of a closer orbit of the sun or is a "rogue planet" that was captured by the sun's gravity.


That would be awesome.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 11:14 am to
If it's at 807 billion miles away, that's 13% of a light year. Just guessing but I'd think that would lend credence to Planet 9 being a captured body.

We know there was a mighty tussle for orbital positions amongst the planets early in the formation of the solar system. Neptune and Uranus actually swapped positions because of the combined gravitational force of Saturn and Jupiter.

So, hypothetically, the combined gravitation of Saturn, Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus could have actually expelled another gaseous planet from a close orbit of the sun. One value of studying young systems such as the one in the OP link is that we might be able to confirm that expulsion of planets is a phenomenon of developing solar systems.
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 11:17 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Can you imagine that size?

Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:57 pm to
Cool.
Posted by mwlewis
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 8:52 pm to
Seriously dude, you just blew my fricking mind.

I watch all kinds of documentaries on Netflix and YouTube about space, planet hunting, super massive black holes, but you brought all that info about planet 9 down to a real level and that's fricking crazy.

Damn space, you scary.
Posted by Kentucker
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 9:52 am to
Thanks. We live in the Information Age and there seems to be a blizzard of new info to process every day about almost any subject in science.

Unless you're a physicist, the details of the info can be bewildering. I've found that the best approach is to take a "big picture" view regarding the solar system, galaxy and Universe. Just get an overview of a new discovery, decide how it affects your assessment of the solar system, galaxy or Universe and make the necessary changes to blend the new info into your view.
Posted by Hogssmellgood
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Posted on 2/2/17 at 11:54 am to
Thanks for this. This is fricking fascinating.
Posted by Commander Data
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Posted on 2/4/17 at 4:17 pm to
That's good stuff.
Posted by JCinBAMA
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:47 am to
On the same page of the link some cool looking stuff...

Like to own any of these



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This futuristic design by aerospace giant Boeing from the 1980s has all the hallmarks of what we imagine when we think of a flying car: A sleek aerodynamic chassis, vertical takeoff and landing, a roomy interior, and a compact shell. It was a significant step away from the limitations of a convertible flying car; an all-in-one vehicle that didn’t require the attachment or removal of wings or even a runway. The Sky Commuter project died before it could be fully realized, as the project costs ballooned to $6 million—a price tag far too high for Boeing at the time.




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Modernizing the concept of foldaway wings, Slovak flying car developer AeroMobil is attempting to take to the skies with the use of regular gasoline. It only requires a couple of hundred feet of paved or unpaved surface for takeoff and landing. The project proved it had legs (or wings) in 2013 and 2014 with two successful flights, but endured a setback when the third iteration of the prototype crashed during a test flight. The team hopes to take the AeroMobil to market as early as 2018.




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Another example of an ongoing vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) aircraft project is the French Armed Forces funded Xplorair PX200. Announced in 2007, the project aims to say “goodbye” to conventional “rotating aerofoils,” such as the ones found in the AeroMobil, and to replace them with small jet engines, fitted inside the wing. To further set it apart, the jet engine relies on a uniquely developed thermoreactor that is more compact and produces more thrust than conventional jet engines. The project aims to commercialize the Xplorair in 2027.




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Moller International has specialized in personal, vertical landing and takeoff vehicles for more than fifty years and is still working to make the flying car a reality. Even with state-of-the-art computer technology (and with not insignificant support from investors), the Moller Skycar has yet to fly without external help. Moller International has continued to research and develop new flying car technology.
Posted by Kentucker
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 3:03 pm to
Flying car technology is advancing rapidly and your post illustrates some of the experimental craft that are likely to go into production. Not as sexy is the most likely air car to be first in your neighborhood.

It's an electric manned drone. The passenger doesn't steer it. It's a robot. The inventors of the eHang have applied for permission to set up operations in American cities. They intend for their air cars to replace taxis. The spectacular future is upon us.


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