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re: Why all this talk about LF7?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:04 pm to CrimsonBoz
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:04 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Henry had more total yards (2310)
On 400 carries.....
..no wonder he fell to the 45th pick in the second rd. quote:Serious question. Really.
Oh and broke Bo Jackson and H Walkers record. FFS he def earned it.
Why would a guy who broke the rushing records of the two RB's who are widely regarded as the two best in SEC history,
fall into the second rd of the NFL draft?
His C (Ryan Kelly) was drafted ahead of him. That's right, a big, fat, slow white guy who snaps the ball got drafted ahead of the guy who broke the SEC rushing record.
Saban needs to be called out for costing this guy tens of millions of dollars for running him into the ground and making him drop in the draft.
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:17 pm to Lsu19geaux94
Neither of your past superstars had enough nuts to finish out a season in football/basketball. What school pride they had
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:18 pm to BhamDore
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BhamDore
good post and sums it up pretty much
I believe LSU fans think we are better than we are mainly because we have quite a few tremendous players but as a whole there are many gaps to make LSU a championship team.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:20 pm to Lsu19geaux94
Who??
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:22 pm to BlackCloud
395 carries and I figured you would have another excuse to go with the list of others.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:29 pm to BlackCloud
Pathetic. So whiny.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:49 pm to LCTFAN
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was hobbled all year with high ankle sprain
So he's got weak ankles.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 8:51 pm to Sid E Walker
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Pathetic. So whiny.
Is that the best you can do you?
I asked a serious question about why DH fell into the second rd of the NFL draft..... and why would his C get drafted ahead of him....and I can't get a serious response.
Derrick Henry is the only Heisman RB (that I could find with a 5 min search) since OJ Simpson (1968) not to get drafted in the 1st rd.
To add insult to injury he had to sit in the draft room and watch a big, slow white guy who snapped the ball on his team get drafted ahead of him and sign for 5 million more.
That will be a great trivia question in a few years.....Who is the only Heisman winning RB who had his C drafted ahead of him?
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:11 pm to BlackCloud
How many RBs have won the Heisman since the NFL has devalued the position?
RB is an antiquated position that you will see less elite athletes gravitate towards. There are only so many carries a body can take. The rookie pay scale has made it advantageous to try to get to the 2nd contract as soon as possible. An elite RB has maybe 6 years of elite production if they are lucky. Probably the main reason it was easy to persuade players like Dylan Moses and Devin White to move on from RB.
The game has moved on to the pass. Now passers and those that protect them, pass catchers, pass defenders, and pass rushers are more desired positions that RB.
RB is an antiquated position that you will see less elite athletes gravitate towards. There are only so many carries a body can take. The rookie pay scale has made it advantageous to try to get to the 2nd contract as soon as possible. An elite RB has maybe 6 years of elite production if they are lucky. Probably the main reason it was easy to persuade players like Dylan Moses and Devin White to move on from RB.
The game has moved on to the pass. Now passers and those that protect them, pass catchers, pass defenders, and pass rushers are more desired positions that RB.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:14 pm to Weagle25
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We had to hear about how he was going to be the GOAT for four or five years. Then he quite obviously wasn't
I don't give a shite about what happens in the NFL, but I have to say that Fournette was an awesome college RB. He set the LSU freshman rushing record, then killed the all-time LSU season rushing and TD record in his sophomore year. He also led the nation in ypg with 160+ ypg and was the first SEC player to do that since the 1940s. He averaged 6.5 ypc last year (and this year too even with the injuries).
LSU fans know he got the ball with the most pathetically predictable play calling every game and an awful passing attack. Miles loved to be predictable. That combo would have destroyed most backs, but Fournette still managed to put up ridiculous numbers with all of that working against him. Bama was really the only team that shut him down after that first decent game he had against them as a freshman. With any kind of creative play calling and a passing game that wasn't ranked 100+ every year he was at LSU, I can only imagine what his numbers would have been. Rushing for 1900+ yards and 20+ TDs last year was almost a miracle with that offense.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:31 pm to Lsu19geaux94
LSU fans before the game:
"Why is no one talking about how awesome Leonard Fournette is!"
LSU fans after the game:
"Why won't everyone stop talking about Leonard Fournette!"
"Why is no one talking about how awesome Leonard Fournette is!"
LSU fans after the game:
"Why won't everyone stop talking about Leonard Fournette!"
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:34 pm to BhamDore
quote:Oddly enough, the NFL devalued the RB position after Mark Ingram in 2011 and Trent Richardson in 2012 and did not draft a RB in the 1st rd in 2013 and 2014.
How many RBs have won the Heisman since the NFL has devalued the position?
Then they realized good RB's are still worth a 1st rd pick as long as they are not from bama. Todd Gurley got drafted 10th in 2015 with a bad knee and Melvin Gordon got drafted 15th in the same draft.
Last year, Ezekiel Elliot got picked 4th and this year Leonard will go top 5-10 with a bad ankle and only 12 yards against bama again.
I do agree the NFL is more of a passing league now than ever before. But to suggest that the position has no value anymore just isn't true.
The NFL won't touch bama RB's in the 1st rd anymore mainly because of Mark and Trent and to a lesser degree Eddie and TJ.
These guys have to give it all to climb the depth chart at bama and just don't have anything left physically and emotionally when they leave bama. Saban is like a swag-vampire just sucking the life and passion out of these guys.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:54 pm to BlackCloud
In 2010 draft CJ spiller, jahvid Best, Ryan Mathews, all had or are having underwhelming careers after being 1st Rd picks.
In 2009 in Knowshon Moreno, Beanie Wells, and Donald Brown all had disappointing careers after 1st Rd selections. I don't even think any of them are even in the NFL anymore. There is a 50+ year history of RBs being drafted high and not having the desired impact of a 1st Rd pick.
The Rams drafted Gurley high and are not any better on offense and Gurley and LF7 actually have comparable talent levels. It was a dumb pick because RBs have very little impact on whether a team can win or not.
In 2009 in Knowshon Moreno, Beanie Wells, and Donald Brown all had disappointing careers after 1st Rd selections. I don't even think any of them are even in the NFL anymore. There is a 50+ year history of RBs being drafted high and not having the desired impact of a 1st Rd pick.
The Rams drafted Gurley high and are not any better on offense and Gurley and LF7 actually have comparable talent levels. It was a dumb pick because RBs have very little impact on whether a team can win or not.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:39 am to TouchdownTony
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As for LF7, he's a good back. Has his moments. He will share time wherever he goes. He's not an elite back. He will face defenses more comparable to Alabama than Miss State in the NFL. That should tell you about all you need to know.
fricking idiot
Posted on 12/12/16 at 4:06 am to Lsu19geaux94
Bama privilege
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:54 am to Weagle25
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had to hear about how he was going to be the GOAT for four or five years. Then he quite obviously wasn't
He is actually the goat...
More proof of the goat
While he is not 1st on either of those, his per game is 1st in both. So yeah, he is. Sans injury he would have owned the career stuff too. If he plays in the bowl game, he will likely be top 10 career in both anyway (needs 6 yards + 1 TD) despite only playing 33 games.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 9:11 am to BhamDore
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BhamDore
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What was their ypc against teams with a pulse?
Well, all this has been argued before. So you know, Fournette actually had a better ypc against common opponents over Henry. And that wasn't just a couple games, it was half the schedule. The ONLY reasons Henry was viewed as "better" was that he didn't have to run against Bama's D, and that LF only played 12 games while Henry played 15.
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