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re: Is there any realistic scenario where we have sustained success?

Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:56 pm to
The teams that are successful are all in states with large populations of talented high school players.

Texas, Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia

I don't see Gus (or anyone else not named Saban) having much more success here. We just can't get the players they can.
This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

The teams that are successful are all in states with large populations of talented high school players. Texas, Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia I don't see Gus (or anyone else not named Saban) having much more success here. We just can't get the players they can.


and... not completely true. GA, LS, and TX hasn't had great success recently. I get your point, but ....
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:59 pm to
the thing about recruiting kids with bad character more than anything is that it's just not pragmatic.

Look at ole miss and all the crap they are going through. For all the stuff they did they still have no o line, no running game, no defense. Because they have no depth. Because kids with bad character don't work hard, don't want to learn and eventually do something bad character like to get kicked off the team.


Our lack of depth at linebacker and the secondary and o line has more to do with state resources than recruiting policies. looka t us at WR. not a team deeper in the SEC.


Another note, there is one thing that gus does, probably better than any coach in america. He makes the game extremely simple for his offensive players. I know Dyer and I was talking to him a few years ago and he explained gus's offense in like seriously, 10 minutes, while smoking a joint lol. The entire offense basically consists of about 9 plays with various varations of the plays. There is no year as a redshirt needed to learn the play book. If you get on campus on monday you should have the playbook down by Wednesday.


But, because the only have 9 fricking plays lol, they practice those 9 plays all day and excuse the 9 plays they are asked, to perfection. it's the old TB Sweep of the packers.. you know what we're going to do and we're going to do it anyway and you cant' stop it because we do it better than you defend it.

That's why they play so many freshman. There is no 3-4 years needed to have perfect foot technique as a o lineman. On play 10, you push the dude in front of you left lol. and if you practice pushing the guy in front of you left 200 times a week all year, you get pretty darn good at. That's why IMHO gus's teams are always very dangerous towards the end of the year. repetition.


I like it, but i'm glad he's not here at the same time because i don't like dumbing things down for people, that in no way helps people for the future.



on another note on top of the another note, i think our defensive recruiting strategy is arse backwards. I'm sick and tired of taking texas safteys and trying to make them arkansas linebackers


just go through the state, find the best 3 6'0 190-210 pound athetes you can find and offer them as linebackwars. if you do this every year we actually would have a pretty damn stout linebacker core with dre greenlaw, brooks ellis, Quanterio Heath, Garrett Kaufman (plays for tcu), C.J Gooden (tulsa), Zach Wary (Wake). Arkansas is always going to be a state that linebackers get by on grit and determination we arenot' LB u and that's okay but stop fricking taking safteys and converting them to linebackers it's not working
This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 11:15 pm
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