1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!

1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.

1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.

1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

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Posted by genro

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Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:05 pm to SavageOrangeJug

You're so angry about football that you hate an entire state of millions of people and devote hours of your day to shite talking them and discrediting National Titles.

You're a sad little banjo plucking skoal spitting meth smoking inbred hill person

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Posted by OldPete

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Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:21 pm to SavageOrangeJug

I think most, if not all, of the pre-poll era championships were retroactive. In '25, '30, and '34, Bama was undefeated and won the Rose Bowl (they tied in '26)...several newspapers/sports writers of that time considered the winners of the Rose Bowl the mythical national champs...Bama has as much right as any of the teams in those years although others were worthy as well...

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1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

All "titles" awarded in 1925 were retroactive...but of the 12 awarded, 9 went to Bama, 2 to Dartmouth, and 1 to a one-loss team. More than one newspaper/media source was of the opinion that the Rose Bowl that year was for National Grid Title/Mythical National Championship.

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1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

Tennessee claims 1951...they played Maryland in their bowl and LOST. Is UT dropping their claim on this one?

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1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0

Make up your mind, which is more important, pre-bowl ranking or post-bowl? The three teams you mention with better records that year all LOST their bowl game...and one of them, Nebraska, lost to Alabama...

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1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

Yes, Bama lost to USC that year...USC later lost to an unranked team. At the time of the bowl games, Bama was #2 in both polls. We beat #1 Penn State in the Sugar Bowl...we won the AP poll but lost the vote in the UPI...if anything we got screwed that year by the UPI. #2 beats #1 while #3 beats #5...and #3 becomes #1?

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