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Is the A&M game the most important game of the Bert era?

Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:36 am
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:36 am
We're 10-2 in our last season worth of games, but if we don't beat A&M we might start 0-2 in conference again and it'll show that we haven't moved to the level we think we have.
Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 10:56 am to
I do believe so.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:22 am to
if it's not the most important, it's at least in the top 3
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:29 am to
The next one is the most important, this has a really high chance of being a special year
Posted by hogSS
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:30 am to
Yea. If we win, we will be 5-0 with Bama coming into town. We will most likely be ranked in the top 15 and College Gameday will for sure be in town. A LOT is riding on this game.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:34 am to
I think there is certainly an argument that can be made for that with the momentum we've established.

We've got major problems at RT. Bert and Enos can possibly cover it with a back, but with SEC caliber lines, it could leave us vulnerable on the left side.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28612 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 11:41 am to
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but if we don't beat A&M we might start 0-2 in conference again and it'll show that we haven't moved to the level we think we have.




I thought we were an 8-4 team coming into this season, and a loss to A&M isn't going to change that unless we get slaughtered. All conference games are important games, and everyone wants to win their first one.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 12:51 pm to
Yes it is. It will be a great year or another mediocre one depending on the outcome of this game.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2221 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 12:52 pm to
Every game until we lose one will be the biggest game of Bert's career from this point forward.

Beat Bama and Ole Miss...and magic could happen.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28612 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

It will be a great year or another mediocre one depending on the outcome of this game.


So if we lose to A&M but then win the rest of our games it will be a mediocre year?
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 12:58 pm to
I can't imagine beating bama if we lose to A&M honestly. It could happen but doubtful
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28612 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 1:03 pm to
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I can't imagine beating bama if we lose to A&M honestly


But it's not like beating A&M will allow us to beat Bama or losing to A&M means we're going to lose to Bama. This game doesn't decide what happens in the following games, it's just one game, and to say it will decide whether this is a mediocre season or special season is just silly and unnecessary.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/18/16 at 1:14 pm to
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So if we lose to A&M but then win the rest of our games it will be a mediocre year?

Gotta get that win over aTm. Real monkey on our backs. Historically Arkansas has dominated the Aggies and we've got to get back to that. That loss last year was ridiculous.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10412 posts
Posted on 9/18/16 at 7:43 pm to
It could certainly set the tone indicating the continued trajectory of the program. Everything has been on the up over the last three years, but there wasn't much else where to go the first couple. The win at TCU caught some eyes, a win at JerryWorld would validate us even more.
This post was edited on 9/18/16 at 7:45 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 5:43 am to
thinking about this question a bit and I'll have to agree.

This game is one of those seminal moments that will answer a number of questions and be the tipping point that leads to a breakthrough or Bert's era at Arkansas stays under a glass ceiling.

First, get that Sumlin/A&M monkey off our backs. This is a match up of two complete different philosophies on football and how to lead a collegiate football program. Arkansas and A&M are polar opposites on just about everything from the types of kids they recruit, chasing the recruiting rankings, discipline inside the program, grades and commitment to academics, offensive style, building a defense, etc. etc.

We've had A&M beat the last two seasons and allowed them to come back and brutalize Ellis to get OT victories. We'll see if everything Bert puts into the program and preaches is legitimate and if the foundation is strong and will lead to higher achievement in the near future.

Since the 2012 collapse we've not gotten the benefit of the doubt from anyone on anything. The 0-17 start in SEC games to Bert's Arkansas tenure has provided much ridicule and was tough to endure. We're ranked in the Top 20 (it may be a little high in my opinion, I'd prefer to be a little under the radar) and A&M just got into the Top 10. Beating a Top 10 team in Dallas after taking down TCU who has had all kinds of momentum and has really hurt our Metroplex and E. Texas recruiting with their ascension the last 10 years should be really helpful to land quality players from those areas again.

There's not been a great story to tell about Arkansas yet and that's why we've not gotten the prime TV spots or much coverage. Now if we beat A&M and go into the Bama game 5-0 on the edge of the Top 10 and with Petrino's Louisville looking strong and being a Top 5 team there's finally a juicy story to tell about Arkansas that has a positive rub. The country will be reminded of how big a sleaze Petrino is, how little ethics U. of Louisville has, and the comeback story of how Bielema struggled, endured, never waivered from his plan or his system and how we took the high road despite the difficulties it brought.

Beating A&M and getting a chance to tell that story and sell it on a national stage would be the most amazing thing for our recruiting. Kids that never give us a thought, will want to come play here and be a part of what the U. of Arkansas offers. Parents and coaches will be impressed and want their kids to join our program instead of looking down upon it.

In terms of this season alone, nah, there'll be bigger games to come. In terms of what a win will do in the bigger scheme of things, this is the game that can define the payoff in having good old-fashioned American values versus the instant gratification and flash and attention-seeking that often defines the millenials. It's a microcosm of MArGA.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 6:54 am to
I'll be ecstatic if we win, I won't be too disappointed if we lose.

I figured this year to be a 6-6 to 8-4 type year. A&M is better than I figured and it's mostly due to their quarterback.

If we go 8-4 with losses to Alabama, Florida, LSU and Texas A&M it will be a pretty good season with breaking in a new offensive line and a new QB.


We have a shot at more, but right now our running game is bad and Austin Allen is still inexperienced. This season should exceed preseason expectations, just maybe not in season expectations.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15382 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:12 am to
If we beat aTm, then beat Bama no one will ever remember the aTm game

If we beat aTm and lose to Bama, the answer to the OP will be yes at least for another season

If we lose to aTm, no. 17-0 will remain #1
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 7:52 am to
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but right now our running game is bad

What?
Posted by sms151t
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:57 am to
I am not sure that this game is as make or break as people think. Last weekend in Ft Worth, to me, was bigger. It set up this weekend and the potential run. If the win does not happen then the reality of 3 straight losses (FBS) happen with a possible 4 out of 5 and natives start to really grumble.

This week is like every other aTm week it is a rivalry it is back to the Jackie levels of hate.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 12:38 pm to
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I can't imagine beating bama if we lose to A&M honestly. It could happen but doubtful
Two completely different animals. We've played Bama well ever since Bert got here.
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