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Coach Sylvester Croom

Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:48 pm
Posted by RegisteredPharmacist
Member since Apr 2016
830 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:48 pm
I just saw a really good documentary on him. It seemed like Mississippi State did him wrong. (And he actually stated this in the doc) He was the SEC Coach of the Year and then after the next season he said that they made him resign.

What are MSU fans thoughts on him and what he did for the program?
Posted by Jeb Busch Lite
Member since Apr 2016
2325 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:50 pm to
fricked us
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47035 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:51 pm to
Mullen has done better than Croom did so how was he done wrong?

They fired a coach and got a better one. That's the business.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 4:51 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:53 pm to
Garbage coach
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72575 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:53 pm to
Derrick Henry's position coach in Nashville now.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37739 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

It seemed like Mississippi State did him wrong.


If he was that good of a coach, he wouldn't still be a NFL position coach but have got better opportunities
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
39017 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:54 pm to
Wonderful human being

Bama legend

Shitty Coach
Posted by Jeb Busch Lite
Member since Apr 2016
2325 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:55 pm to
He went 3-9 with a loss to Louisiana Tech and a 45-0 loss to ole miss. He had one winning season in 4 years. In no way was he "done wrong"
Posted by TheCosbySweater
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
1743 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:55 pm to
What a joke. MSU was repulsive under croom.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
128467 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

He was the SEC Coach of the Year and then after the next season he said that they made him resign.


That SEC COY season was the only winning season in the Croom era (that consisted of shitastic offenses).
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
101778 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:57 pm to
He went to one bowl game while at State and had one winning season. He was at State the same time Rich Brooks was at UK. For comparison's sake, Brooks inherited a team with scholarship reductions and probation yet still managed to take UK to four consecutive bowls and didn't have a losing season in his last four years at UK. I'd say State did what they had to do to better their program. Don't want to get fired/forced to resign, then win games.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3905 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:58 pm to
Thought he cleaned up jackies mess and after that didn't do anything
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
33596 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

He was the SEC Coach of the Year
Only because of Ellis Johnson's defense.
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
1397 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 5:17 pm to
The thing that sticks out to me about coach croom was when he first got there he got a really athletic qb (Omar Conner) and said we're going to make him a west coast qb in a west coast offense. It didn't work for shite but he was stubborn. After Conner they had Wesley Carroll and henig (not nearly the athletes Conner was) and said well we're going to simplify things and run some zone read. Then they take the best high school RB type player in the state of mississippi (derek pegues) in maybe a decade and they make him a DB. The guy made some puzzling decisions.

But I'll say this, he tried very very hard to ensure that he ran a clean program that produced quality young men. Hugh Freeze is sort of he anti-croom.
Posted by RegisteredPharmacist
Member since Apr 2016
830 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Then they take the best high school RB type player in the state of mississippi (derek pegues) in maybe a decade and they make him a DB. The guy made some puzzling decisions.



Well, let's see here... He had -

Jerious Norwood who went on to sign with the Falcons.
Anthony Dixon who went on to sign with San Fransisco.
and
Christian Ducre who went on to sign with the Saints.

I would call that a good move by Croom. Pegues was a hell of a safety and hell of a kick off/punt returner.
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 5:51 pm to
There's a reason why many opposing coaches who got fired during Sly's tenure were referred to as being "Croomed." Losing to them was bad enough to roll some heads, so it's kinda telling about how his prowess as a head coach and manager of a program was perceived.

Great person though, and I don't recall hating the Packers' rushing attack when he had his stop in Green Bay.
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
1397 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 6:05 pm to
Maybe so. Norwood was definitely a very good player. I don't think Pegues made an nfl roster at safety. I felt like he had greater potential on the offensive side of the ball but then, I was not at their practices every day and I'm not even a state fan so my opinion is somewhat less than informed.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
66003 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 6:20 pm to
Never got old seeing a team get inexplicably "Croomed."
Posted by BobMayonnaise
Memphis
Member since Feb 2009
1421 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 6:30 pm to
He also stated that he refused to fire any of his assistants and that he'd basically resign before he ever would.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4528 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 6:36 pm to
His teams never had an offense ranked better than #100.
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