re: Cam and Hootie have been suspended by Saban

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But it's not nonexistent, and there was never a realistic chance that it would be.

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But your argument would be that people who said no punishment are wrong if Saban gave them a stern talking to. That is a punishment. Nobody thought they would get a ticker tape parade. Most people here were trying to say nothing significant would happen to two players who were riding around in the middle of the night with guns (one of them stolen), drugs and apparently some criminal they knew. They don't have to be prosecuted for jack shite for Saban to punish them.