Ha ok...well I believe more can and should be done administratively than criminally and apparently you don't...I guess that's the big divide here.

It's almost like there's an assumption that if there isn't enough evidence to charge criminally, or for whatever reason the person isn't charged criminally, or if they are found not guilty, they should automatically be allowed to play. I believe that sets a dangerous precedent.

Edit: criminal charges are about taking away rights. Getting to play NCAA is a privilege and is not a guaranteed right. The standard should be higher to get to play than just "not getting criminally convicted." After all, isn't that the case with Ole Miss and Tunsil? It certainly was the case with RP being processed for "violating team rules."

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Posted by randomways

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Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:58 am to SeekGreatness

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It's almost like there's an assumption that if there isn't enough evidence to charge criminally, or for whatever reason the person isn't charged criminally, or if they are found not guilty, they should automatically be allowed to play. I believe that sets a dangerous precedent.

Well, I have trouble going away -- and away I must go, because I do have work to do -- without addressing this. Granted, playing is a privilege, but a fervent (there have been other, more half-hearted examples in the past) innocent until proven guilty ethos is quite likely the greatest contribution American jurisprudence has given to the common discourse. More than freedom of expression, more than Miranda rights, more than anything I can think of right now. I have absolutely no issue whatsoever with a college sports program modeling its behavior on that. We can all have our opinions of a person's guilt -- most people still believe OJ was guilty even though he was acquitted -- but criticizing an institution for taking that path is a far more dangerous precedent in my opinion.

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Posted by cajunbama

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Member since Jan 2007

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Posted on 6/21/16 at 6:21 am to SeekGreatness

Les Miles allowed a player on his team who as an adult, admitted to having sex with a 14 year old child. The incident was video recorded. The players charges were reduced but still got probation. A year or two later the player was video recorded violating probation when he sucker punched a drunk from behind and lied to the cops about it.

The Louisiana judge let him off with a "stern" warning and didn't violate his probation when video evidence clearly showed he did. Les called for a team vote.

Your outrage over this is hysterical and hypocritical.