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Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 5:04 pm to
Baseball isn't near as hard as you made it sound. Most people can pick up baseball pretty quick. I don't know if it was just because I grew up playing it or what but it just came naturally to me.

Golf on the other hand, I've been playing for a couple of years and still suck
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 5:07 pm to
Well in a way they are all equally impossible to master. If we assume enough people have attempted mastery, and we have seen the maximum effort applied, then we have seen it. And, IMO that should be the standard. Just because the rules of something make it unlikely or even impossible to perfect, doesn't mean it's impossible to master. Playing a perfect basketball game would mean you shot in a basketball off the tip, scored a 3. Forced a 5 second inbound violation, then scored an alley oop immediately on the inbounds pass you just received. According to the Trent Tucker Rule, that play must take a minimum of 0.3 seconds off the clock. A three would take too much longer to travel in the air to make up for the point difference. On top the oop, you would then have to draw the foul and complete your free throw. If the initial tipoff and three took a generous 3 seconds off the clock, then that would mean that the perfect basketball game would be won 28,770-0. See the difference between mastery and perfection? The most efficient points/minute play in basketball is harder than getting a hole in one. And then you'd have to do it almost 10,000 times in a row.

Now that we understand the difference between perfecting and mastering, we have to think which sport required the most and widest variety of things to master. Obviously mastering chess is harder than mastering checkers because there is more to learn.

IMO, that eliminates most Olympic sports like track and field and swimming because you can't play defense. Playing defense and having to adjust real time based on an opponent matters and it's something that those things lack, and absolutely matters. The variety of reactions and real time decisions relating to scenarios that would be almost impossible to replicate is part of the beauty of competition. For this reason, golf should be eliminated as well.

I would also move to eliminate sports that don't interchange between offense and defense simultaneously. Meaning baseball would be eliminated. Baseball, like golf, requires you to perform one of the hardest acts in all of sports, and it actually has to adapt based on the opponent, but it doesn't require you to then play defense. In football you do have offense vs defense, as either team can score on any play, but I would also say that this isn't the idealest form of playing offense and defense simultaneously, and it eliminates football as well.

As far as the ideal form of offense vs defense, that would be combat such as boxing or MMA. Boxing utilizes less than MMA, so let's knock boxing out of consideration. However, MMA doesn't utilize a foreign object that requires additional mastery, such as a ball.

Soccer is a good example of real time offense and defense as well as mastery of a ball, but the hands aren't used. Soccer might win if it wasn't for this.

The elements should matter as well. Playing football in the summer with short grass or on astroturf is different than playing in 40 below during a snow storm.

The best sport for this, as far as a variety of surfaces and elements is probably tennis. Clay, grass and hard court is a great blend and even the greatests of all time have had weaknesses and strengths across the three. Tennis is a great level of finite motor control with hands, real time defense, and blend of surfaces, but it completely lacks a physical contact element.

Basketball requires a physical element, real time offense, and although the surface is static, its biggest detractor is that it favors height.

Another great example of a physical element is hockey. It also has intense real time offense and defense and it requires mastery of a foreign object and foreign auxiliary equipment(skates). The surface isn't as varied as tennis, but that isn't that big of a deal, IMO.


In conclusion, hockey. Followed by basketball, tennis, soccer, MMA, soccer, football, baseball, golf, track and field.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 5:26 pm to
Depends on your own physical limitations.
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 5:26 pm to
Surprised there aren't more tennis answers. Seems like that's a pretty darn hard sport to master.

I'd say seconded by golf.
This post was edited on 5/14/16 at 5:27 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 5:55 pm to
Tennis is actually pretty easy to get good at.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 7:40 pm to
Holy wall of friggin' TEXT














Yes, I read every word
This post was edited on 5/14/16 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Baseball isn't near as hard as you made it sound. Most people can pick up baseball pretty quick. I don't know if it was just because I grew up playing it or what but it just came naturally to me.


Incorrect, even the greats struggle to hit over .300. Baseball is a science. What you say comes naturally to you doesn't come naturally to others. Take a guy like Michael Jordan who is a world class athlete and put him in baseball and he can't even hit in the minors. Baseball is hard....period. I would agree golf is the harder sport overall but hitting world class pitching is no small task.

You have between .21 and .25 seconds to react to a 90 mph fastball. Most guys in the majors throw 95+ and they can mix in 3 or 4 other pitches to go with that fastball.
This post was edited on 5/14/16 at 8:14 pm
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 8:27 pm to
The answer is : pickleball.

j/k

Hitting a baseball is very difficult. A ball moving at variable speed and spin is hard for the brain to process quickly and accurately.

Driving a car is similar in that we have more trouble judging speeds of cars moving toward us. Left turns across traffic require us to judge when it is safe. many accidents occur because we just don't do a great job understanding the speed of a car traveling toward us.
This post was edited on 5/14/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Tennis is actually pretty easy to get good at.


Go beat a wall.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 9:35 pm to
Did that hurt your feelings?

Posted by CNB
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 9:35 pm to
I mean that's how I practiced lacrosse. Beat the shite out of a brick wall.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

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Dude..... Its gotta be fishing, if fishing is a sport.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:33 pm to


I may have misread his comment I will admit.

Tennis is a hell of a lot cheaper than golf

Posted by 3nOut
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

Did that hurt your feelings


No really. I literally mean go play tennis against a wall. That damn wall will win every time.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 5/14/16 at 11:38 pm to
The golf swing seems silly hard till you figure it out, then it doesn't seem so hard.

also espn xperts hardest sports
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 1:44 am to
shite I had it all wrong

This post was edited on 5/15/16 at 1:56 am
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 4:00 am to
Michael Jordan hadn't played baseball since jr high, went into the minor leagues and batted over .200 and hit bombs u out of your mind if you don't think Jordan is not a multi time all star if that were his sole focus


Yet, Jordan the best basket ball player of all time, was just a 30% three point shooter


The best football play in arkansas history, basil shabazz, was drafted and had never tkuchen a baseball in his life.


My best friend growing up was (would go on to be) an all metro shooting guard and played some college ball. We were a,man short in the state playoffs in pony league, I'm like coach my best friend has never played but he's pretty athletic so we stick him in right field lol. 3rd at bat..EVER lol hits a three run bomb I still don't think has landed. We still list cause I blew the game pitching tho lol and he never played again.


Baseball people over exaggerate how hard hitting is they just suck arse at hand eye cordniation. Also most baseball guys have too closed a stance making it too hard to see what they Re swinging at. I could always play defense aNd I always had a nice swing so I always got drafted by older teams growing up but could actually hit for shite lol. One day I was watching Harold banes and I remember seeing how he had an open stance and had more time to see the ball. I tried that the next game and it was like I had put baseball on easy node until I saw my first change up at least lol. People say a curveball is hard to hit nit if you got good hand eye cordniatiio n you can project where the ball is going. But a good changeup. The day Blake horseman threw a minor league quality changeup to me in practice is the day I knew baseball wasn't for me lol
Posted by JacketFan77
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 6:35 am to
skateboarding - mastering it means you've eaten pavement time and time again, putting your body through a tremendous amount of physical abuse. I can't think of another sport in which that happens with the same frequency.
Posted by VolFanInCzechRep
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Posted on 5/15/16 at 6:54 am to
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