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What Will Be The Actual Consequences For Ole Miss?
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:39 pm
I don't know if we are far enough along in the process to talk rationally, but I hope we are past the initial "OMG death penalty" circle jerk that we all love to engage in whenever a team does anything that might be seen as a violation. Let's see:
With the understanding of reality that the NCAA won't do jack squat, what real-world consequences will Ole Miss deal with for the situation involving Tunsil (and not the old Nutt violations)?
The two I can think of are:
1. The press hassles EVERY commitment they have going forward about taking payments. Players might decide to go elsewhere to avoid the insinuations.
2. Current coaches will have trouble getting new jobs as future employers will be scared something else will get out that will force a Show Cause.
What else can tRant think of?
With the understanding of reality that the NCAA won't do jack squat, what real-world consequences will Ole Miss deal with for the situation involving Tunsil (and not the old Nutt violations)?
The two I can think of are:
1. The press hassles EVERY commitment they have going forward about taking payments. Players might decide to go elsewhere to avoid the insinuations.
2. Current coaches will have trouble getting new jobs as future employers will be scared something else will get out that will force a Show Cause.
What else can tRant think of?
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 3:06 pm
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Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:41 pm to cardboardboxer
There will be a lose of scollys. That is a given. Ole Miss is hoping for something in 2-5 range. Maybe 2 per year for 2-3 years. Trying to avoid Post season ban, TV ban, limits on recruiting etc.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:42 pm to cardboardboxer
Two years probation
Loss of 2 scholarships per year
Loss of 2 scholarships per year
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:42 pm to cardboardboxer
Holy fricking shite can we put this shite to bed lets talk about some other bullshite...every fricking thread on this fricking board is about Ole Miss...if we get hammered then point and laugh but enough with this shite pls
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:48 pm to cardboardboxer
If you look at their former coach that got ULL in trouble, resulting in losing 9 or so, schollies, coupled with Tunsil stuff and other little things, I would not be surprised to see the NCAA announce:
- Loss of 10 schollies over 3 years (OM will appeal at get it knocked down to 6 or so);
- One year post-season ban (OM will appeal and get that reversed);
- Contact limits as to number of in-home visits, etc. (OM will not appeal) and
- three years probation wherein any other major infraction results in much more severe penalties.
Those are the NCAA consequences. The real-world consequence will be the cash-flow to players will be drastically reduced (OM fans can cut the crap if they say this isn't happening - I personally know a wealthy OM fan that gives money to players already on campus).
I think that they will take a standard deviation step back in recruiting (if they average a Top 10 class with Freeze, it will be a Top 20 class average moving forward) with the occasional outlier in the Top 10 and outside the Top 20.
They will continue to be a 9-3 or 8-4 type of program.
- Loss of 10 schollies over 3 years (OM will appeal at get it knocked down to 6 or so);
- One year post-season ban (OM will appeal and get that reversed);
- Contact limits as to number of in-home visits, etc. (OM will not appeal) and
- three years probation wherein any other major infraction results in much more severe penalties.
Those are the NCAA consequences. The real-world consequence will be the cash-flow to players will be drastically reduced (OM fans can cut the crap if they say this isn't happening - I personally know a wealthy OM fan that gives money to players already on campus).
I think that they will take a standard deviation step back in recruiting (if they average a Top 10 class with Freeze, it will be a Top 20 class average moving forward) with the occasional outlier in the Top 10 and outside the Top 20.
They will continue to be a 9-3 or 8-4 type of program.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:51 pm to cardboardboxer
Once we get the NOA and response we will start to have a idea.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:52 pm to cardboardboxer
No postseason. Guaranteed many losing seasons due to scholarship reduction. Freezus is history.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:59 pm to cardboardboxer
A lot less than everyone is hoping for. Unsubstantiated rumors and such is all those in opposition have to hold on to. It will all fade away and leave all the mongoloids in Starkville with nothing to do but start getting it on with their cattle in ways never even imagined before.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:13 pm to cardboardboxer
It all depends on to what extent Saunders came clean regarding the ACT and Academic fraud schemes. This involves not just football, but at least 2 other sports. That is LOIC territory.
If it comes out in OleMiss' response to the NOA (based on Saunders and ULL testimony) that Bjork & Administrators were less than forthcoming they're gonna get nailed, and nailed hard. That's also going to be bad news for the entire FB staff, because Coaches and Administrators are now also held accountable. No mote plausible deniability.
This is why Nick had the quick trigger on Bo Davis. It ultimately could've fallen on him if not nipped in the bud.
If it comes out in OleMiss' response to the NOA (based on Saunders and ULL testimony) that Bjork & Administrators were less than forthcoming they're gonna get nailed, and nailed hard. That's also going to be bad news for the entire FB staff, because Coaches and Administrators are now also held accountable. No mote plausible deniability.
This is why Nick had the quick trigger on Bo Davis. It ultimately could've fallen on him if not nipped in the bud.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:16 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:20 pm to cardboardboxer
I suspect 10 to 15 scholarships over 3 years is about right. I'd say 1 to 2 year bowl ban. Five years probation at a minimum and at least one high up at OM gets fired over this as "the fall guy".
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:41 pm to cardboardboxer
3. See "North Carolina Basketball" for reference.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 3:56 pm to cardboardboxer
An Sec West terrorist mad his team can't beat freeze will crash Sec media days. Freeze wil be beheaded live on Sec Media week this summer, and Ross Bork will be disembowled. ESPN will say that it was compelling television and this is what makes SEC media week fun. airing it all live because that's what the terrorists want and ESPN loves generating some ratings.
The astute and educated community on the Rant will decide that these punishments were minimal and that Ole Miss should forfeit its right to University status and become a Nuclear Test site and hopefully wipe out the state of MS after a future Chernobyl incident.
After said Nuclear Disater .... Of course the rant will not feel empathy because they beat my football team and they wasn't supposed too. Because our team never cheats or takes things out of context.
The astute and educated community on the Rant will decide that these punishments were minimal and that Ole Miss should forfeit its right to University status and become a Nuclear Test site and hopefully wipe out the state of MS after a future Chernobyl incident.
After said Nuclear Disater .... Of course the rant will not feel empathy because they beat my football team and they wasn't supposed too. Because our team never cheats or takes things out of context.
This post was edited on 5/3/16 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:04 pm to cardboardboxer
Maybe nothing in terms of sanctions, but the Wild West days are over for Ole Miss.
No way they are brazen enough to keep up their rampant cheating with NCAA up their arse.
So the days of top 10 classes and out of state 5* are over. We'll have to see what Freeze does identifying and developing instead of buying. I doubt it ends well for him.
No way they are brazen enough to keep up their rampant cheating with NCAA up their arse.
So the days of top 10 classes and out of state 5* are over. We'll have to see what Freeze does identifying and developing instead of buying. I doubt it ends well for him.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:07 pm to cardboardboxer
One thing they need to force Ole Miss to do is take down the 2003 Co Champions Banner
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:14 pm to cardboardboxer
4 pages now? Let's shut this thing down
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:07 pm to cardboardboxer
Donnie Tyndall gets a 20 year show cause.
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:41 pm to cardboardboxer
Ole Miss will lose 2 scholarships
In women's bowling
In women's bowling
Posted on 5/4/16 at 8:42 am to cardboardboxer
They'll have to vacate the 3 points they scored in the Peach Bowl. Players will have to give these back:
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:32 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:
Show Cause
What is this
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