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re: Pete Carroll ~VS~ Nick Saban
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:59 pm to bamasgot13
Posted on 4/26/16 at 1:59 pm to bamasgot13
quote:You are very biased yes. That is why you only posted one side of the story. Yes, Pete seems to have more upset losses. Alot more
Pete Carroll had the following embarrassing loses AFTER his first year:
2nd season: 27-20 to KSU, 30-27 to WSU
3rd season: 34-31 to unranked Cal
6th season: 33-31 Cal (unranked), 13-9 UCLA (unranked)
7th season: 24-23 Stanford (unranked and a 40+ point dog)
8th season: 27-21 Oregon State (unranked)
9th season: 16-13 Washington (unranked), 47-20 Oregon, 55-21 Stanford, and 21-17 Arizona (unranked)
7 losses to unranked teams. 2 losses of greater than 20 points.
From 2nd season on, Saban has never lost to an unranked team, never had more than 3 losses in a season, and never lost by more than 14 points.
I'm biased, but the numbers don't lie. I'd take Saban's best years over Pete's best years. All the winning, more titles, and less WTH losses.
1 point for Saban.
How about we look at how they do against great/equal competition?
Well, Pete dominates Saban.
Pete is 14-5 vs top 10 teams
while Saban is 10-11
That is a huge plus for Pete. Add into it his NFL success, it is clear Pete is a better coach when the playing field is even. It is also clear Saban does a better job of keeping his team focused against lesser competition.
graph is from last year
Saban went 2-1 against top 10 final rankings
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 2:01 pm
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Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:40 pm to lsupride87
Saban built two massive empires in college football. That is pretty impressive. Lotta coaches succeed in one place but few can do it twice.
Saban is mo better in a tougher neighborhood.
Saban is mo better in a tougher neighborhood.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:35 pm to lsupride87
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How about we look at how they do against great/equal competition?
I'd love to but it can't be done. Pete played in a Pac-10 where the toughest competition every year was Oregon, yet somehow still managed to lose to the likes of Wash State, Oregon State, Arizona, and Stanford before they were built up and while USC was a 40+ point favorite.
The only contender from that conference during Carroll's time there was USC.
Meanwhile, Saban (to borrow from Gnash Rebel) played in the toughest neighborhood in college football - the SEC West.
While Saban has been at Bama, you've had 4 different teams from the conference win National Titles. From 2009-2015 some team from the state of Alabama has either won the title, played for the title, or been in the playoffs. USC didn't have that type of competition in their own conference, much less their own state.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:38 pm to lsupride87
quote:How the hell can you possibly do that? Pete coached in the fricking Pac-10 while Saban coaches in the strongest division in the country's toughest conference.
How about we look at how they do against great/equal competition?
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