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re: The gayest city in the world - this is a microcosm of what is to come ...
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:59 am to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:59 am to TeLeFaWx
Your grandparents didn't accept black people. Your parents were smarter than that. Your parents accepted black people; but not gay people. You were smarter than that. You accepted gay people; but not transgender people. Your kids will be smarter than you. They will accept transgender people; but still not Auburn fans.
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:02 pm to Stacked
I don't accept stupid people.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:06 pm to Stacked
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They will accept transgender people
There's no such thing as transgender.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:06 pm to Stacked
I don't think this thread is about whether it is right or wrong to be gay. I think most people roll their ideas at talking to 3-4 year olds about whether they self identify as the the opposite gender of their physical characteristics. My kids are mixed race and he was shocked at about age 6 to hear that he was part one race and part the other. Totally didn't think about such things. And when he found out he didn't care.
I just don't think that age 3 or 4 is a good time to let children make life choices that could be way off and have serious consequences. Just treat them like their birth gender until you have reason to believe otherwise.
I knew a guy whose son wanted to wear girl clothes and have girl stuff when he was a boy. They tried to be cool with it and all of the sudden he just did a 180 and demanded not to be treated that way. It was really strange to be around. But I am glad they didn't start pushing him in that direction.
I just don't think that age 3 or 4 is a good time to let children make life choices that could be way off and have serious consequences. Just treat them like their birth gender until you have reason to believe otherwise.
I knew a guy whose son wanted to wear girl clothes and have girl stuff when he was a boy. They tried to be cool with it and all of the sudden he just did a 180 and demanded not to be treated that way. It was really strange to be around. But I am glad they didn't start pushing him in that direction.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 1:40 pm to Stacked
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Your grandparents didn't accept black people. Your parents were smarter than that. Your parents accepted black people; but not gay people. You were smarter than that. You accepted gay people; but not transgender people. Your kids will be smarter than you. They will accept transgender people; but still not Auburn fans.
I accept transgenders, but I still think it's like someone is "broken" for lack of a better term. As if it's a type of Body Dysmorphic Disorder. It is called Gender Dysphoria afterall. Where as homosexuality I think is just normal.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 2:27 pm to Stacked
Posted on 4/21/16 at 9:16 pm to Stacked
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Your grandparents didn't accept black people. Your parents were smarter than that. Your parents accepted black people; but not gay people. You were smarter than that. You accepted gay people; but not transgender people. Your kids will be smarter than you. They will accept transgender people; but still not Auburn fans.
You're right in the way that trans people will be viewed differently by the upcoming generations. But I think the argument a lot of people here are making isn't that being trans is a bad thing that should be "tolerated" at best. It's that letting a child who is barely older than a toddler make a decision like that is basically ending their life right there at age four if they decide they want the complicated option.
I mean, fricking really. You don't let your kids lease a car, take out a mortgage, or get married at four years old. Why would you let them be in charge of their own gender? What boundaries and structure does a child have after that point? You're going to let them do that and then tell them they have to eat their veggies and be in bed by a certain time?
Children have basic rights to safety, a warm place to sleep, food to eat, an education, and other essentials. Until they're not walking flesh sacks of weakness, struggling to gain a rudimentary grasp on language and not eating things that aren't food, their right to an opinion gets put on hold for awhile. You get to take your first steps in choosing "who you are" when you start picking out your own clothes and have your career day at school. You don't decide who you are when you don't know that sticking a fork in the light socket is an idea that requires further thought.
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