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re: Interesting article about Kirby Smart

Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:44 am to
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:44 am to
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Bama is both, why can't we be both? Bama is a strong academic institution


Errrr.......not exactly.

According to U.S. News:

Bama is ranked 96th overall; UGA is 61st.

Bama is ranked 43rd of public institutions; UGA is 21st.

For various courses of study:

Business

Bama - 53rd / UGA - 55th (#2 Insurance and #3 Real Estate)

Education

Bama - 107th / UGA - 34th

Law

Bama - 28th / UGA - 33rd

Bio Science

Bama - 115th / UGA - 42nd

Chemistry

Bama - 92nd / UGA - 56th

Public Affairs

Bama - 130th / UGA - 4th

Pretty big gaps in most places there (comparing common programs between the two). They have us in engineering as we are still in fledgling stages there, yet they are still ranked 105th. We have them in Vet Schools at 10th...and in a number of other common programs.

We have NO programs ranking outside the top 100 (Computer Science is 90th, Earth Sciences 88th, Physics 85th, Economics 64th, and English 59th for our lowest five). They have numerous other programs in the 90s and 100s.

This really isn't as close as you think it is.




This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 10:47 am
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15814 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 10:50 am to
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According to U.S. News: Bama is ranked 96th overall; UGA is 61st.


And these rankings are fairly subjective. Bama is not exactly at the bottom of the heap in the SEC academically yet they are far superior in football.

They manage to be a football institution with a pretty strong academic one as well. Not a strong as Georgia but strong enough. Not even bottom tier in the SEC. Adams is basically suggesting we can't do both which is crap.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 10:51 am
Posted by MouseBenQ
Member since Apr 2016
43 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:45 pm to
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Errrr.......not exactly. According to U.S. News:


I would say that both schools are similar academically. Bama has us beat in Law and Business. We were ranked higher than them last year in business and ranked higher than them in law few years ago. Law, business, and engineering are significant colleges within any university and we should strive to improve our rankings in those fields. The reason Bama gets many out of state applicant's is because Bama is known for providing generous merit scholarship to OOS students. I think the beauty of the campus itself attracts many students. Having a winning football team sends waves of publicly throughout the nation attracting many students.

Having said all that, there are tons of things going for UGA. For example, we have a new business learning community, so expect the ranking of UGA to surpass Bama in the next few years. We have also raised significanlty' more money each year under Moorehead than any other presidents before. We have also opened a new Vet campus. I strongly belive UGA will also have it's own independent medical school in the future. I also believe that UGA is closer to an AAU membership than Bama due to UGA's stronger research performance. Anyway, both schools are great in different ways.

To address the topic, what Michael Adams said is ridiculous. I mean if Bama has a different "mindset" than UGA, then what about Florida, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, Notre Dame and other schools with strong academics and a historically strong football team. There is no reason why we can't be both good at football and academics. I believe Adams and McGarity's mindset is why we can't achieve to our potential. They are the leaders in mediocrity.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 7:13 pm
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