Wins are good for one thing only: Getting you into the post-season.

Take this season in college basketball...

Akron finished 25-8
Valpo finished 24-6
Syracuse is now 23-13

The two teams with the most wins failed to make the NCAA tournament. The team with fewer wins is now playing in the Final Four.

Now go ask any fan of basketball if they would prefer to win the MAC regular season title and win 25 games.... or if they'd prefer winning 19 games in the regular season and make the tournament.

Figuring total wins means absolutely nothing if you don't make the tournament. ZERO.

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Bottom line is that you had no idea Bama was ranked #1, #1 and #3 respectively in All Time overall wins

Bottomline is that is a worthless statistic. It has zero bearing on where your team ranks. Other than the fact that wins get a team into the postseason, those wins mean nothing if they fail to get you into the postseason.

... as it was perfectly described above.

Don't even try to pretend that wins means anything. Syracuse is playing in the Final Four. Akron and Valpo are watching it at home. Those wins of Akron and Valpo don't count 50% into the equation or even 10% for that matter. They are absolutely worthless unless they helped them get into the tournament.

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Posted by lsufball19

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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:48 pm to BHMKyle

it's also worthless to use all-time wins because teams started fielding programs at different times. look at football's all-time wins list. Alabama is like 7th all-time in wins. I doubt any Alabama fan would, nor should they, buy the argument that means anything

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Posted by ErnestTBassmaster

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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:59 pm to BHMKyle

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Don't even try to pretend that wins means anything. Syracuse is playing in the Final Four. Akron and Valpo are watching it at home.

This is the worst argument you have made thus far. Talk about small sample sizes and irrelevance combined in one terrible argument. No one is saying that total wins is the only criterion, just that it should not be discounted. Sheesh.

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Posted by Tuscaloosa

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Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:00 pm to BHMKyle

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Bottomline is that is a worthless statistic. It has zero bearing on where your team ranks. Other than the fact that wins get a team into the postseason, those wins mean nothing if they fail to get you into the postseason.

... as it was perfectly described above.

Don't even try to pretend that wins means anything. Syracuse is playing in the Final Four. Akron and Valpo are watching it at home. Those wins of Akron and Valpo don't count 50% into the equation or even 10% for that matter. They are absolutely worthless unless they helped them get into the tournament.

Got it. So Florida is a better football program historically than Michigan. Also, UConn has a better basketball program historically than Kansas, and Florida basketball is on par with Michigan State.

Got it.