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re: Alabama in top 3 sports

Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:25 pm to
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Bama has the #7 basketball program in the SEC


I don't know what measurement would lead you to automatically put Tennessee ahead of Alabama, but I agree we are 6a or 6b


quote:

Bama has the #9 baseball program in the SEC


I just can't buy into the idea that a team with
- winning record vs 13/14 members of a league
- 2nd most wins all-time in conference
- top half in NCAA tournament appearances
- #2 in conference titles
- #2 in conference tournament titles

.......is 9th in the league overall. I don't think we are in the top 3 or 4, but I think discounting all of that and solely ranking based on 1 national title vs 0 national titles or 6 CWS vs 5 CWS and ignoring all above isn't the right way to do it.

Difference of opinion in how to rank teams, I guess.


This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

I just can't buy into the idea that a team with
- winning record vs 13/14 members of a league
- 2nd most wins all-time in conference
- top half in NCAA tournament appearances
- #2 in conference titles
- #2 in conference tournament titles


You are spouting stats that frankly don't mean much. If the SEC had been consistent with the same teams from the very beginning, you may have a point.

But South Carolina, Missouri, and Arkansas are all relatively new to the SEC, yet all have more baseball success than Alabama. Of course they are going to trail you in conference titles and conference tournament titles, etc.... you had a 60+ year head start!!

Same goes for basketball. Arkansas and Mizzou are clearly ahead of Bama. But these teams didn't join the SEC until much later.

It would be like Bama moving to the ACC for some reason.... trailing every program in ACC football titles wouldn't have any measure on where your program ranked all-time.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65523 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

I just can't buy into the idea that a team with
- winning record vs 13/14 members of a league
- 2nd most wins all-time in conference
- top half in NCAA tournament appearances
- #2 in conference titles
- #2 in conference tournament titles

.......is 9th in the league overall. I don't think we are in the top 3 or 4, but I think discounting all of that and solely ranking based on 1 national title vs 0 national titles or 6 CWS vs 5 CWS and ignoring all above isn't the right way to do it.

Difference of opinion in how to rank teams, I guess.


in baseball, I'd put Alabama, all-time, behind LSU, Vanderbilt (recent success but CWS title is a trump), Georgia (CWS title in 1990), State, Florida and Arkansas.

Basketball is tough. Alabama has the SEC conference titles but their postseason success is a pretty big knock. I think you'd have to put them behind Kentucky, Florida, LSU, and Arkansas and about even with Tennessee
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