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re: Alabama in top 3 sports

Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:12 pm to
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says the Bama fan who constantly points to "championships" as the only true barometer of football success


I don't say that at all. Championships matter more, but total wins matter too. Who says they don't? I don't know any Alabama fans who say that. Why would we?

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I love how Bama fans think that when it comes to football, its all about National Titles. If a Tennessee fan came along and pointed out that UT was close to Bama in football success because of their 820 wins to Bama's 864 (not much difference), you would immediately start comparing National Titles


No - I'd compare every single measurable statistic that shows that we are ahead of them (national titles, SEC titles, bowl games, bowl wins, overall wins, head to head). Those all favor us vs everyone in the league in football.

In basketball and baseball, we rank in the Top 3 in many of those, have winning records vs everyone in the league outside of Kentucky in basketball (or did a few years ago) and everyone in the league in baseball except for South Carolina.

It isn't even close to the same argument. We dominate every statistical comparison in football with everyone else. We are very good in some and not as good in others in basketball and baseball. I don't think we rank OVERALL in the Top 3 in basketball and baseball, I think we more towards 5-7 in both depending on how much value you put on regular season/head to head records. However, those exist and matter, you don't just ignore 100 years of history because Georgia had a magical run in the 80's and won a national title. It should have major weight because of how big a deal it is, but it doesn't 100% trump everything else. That is silly.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 1:16 pm
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 1:19 pm to
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SummerOfGeorge
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No - I'd compare every single measurable statistic that shows that we are ahead of them (national titles, SEC titles, bowl games, bowl wins, overall wins, head to head). Those all favor us vs everyone in the league in football. In basketball and baseball, we rank in the Top 3 in many of those, have winning records vs everyone in the league outside of Kentucky in basketball (or did a few years ago) and everyone in the league in baseball except for South Carolina. It isn't even close to the same argument. We dominate every statistical comparison in football with everyone else. We are very good in some and not as good in others in basketball and baseball. I don't think we rank OVERALL in the Top 3 in basketball and baseball, I think we more towards 5-7 in both depending on how much value you put on regular season/head to head records. However, those exist and matter, you don't just ignore 100 years of history because Georgia had a magical run in the 80's and won a national title. It should have major weight because of how big a deal it is, but it doesn't 100% trump everything else. That is silly.

This is a fair assessment. I frankly have never read a post on SECR from an Alabama fan trumpeting our success in baseball or basketball, but factually, the Tide has done well in both sports.
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