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re: Alabama in top 3 sports

Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:58 am to
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Only school in the SEC to be ranked in the top 3 in the conference in all time wins in all 3 major sports.


Everyone knows when it comes to basketball and baseball, its all about the Tournament. Ask any fan this question: Would you rather have Alabama's wins in basketball, or Florida's fewer wins but much richer Tournament success? 99.999% of people are going to pick Florida's tournament success.

The truth is, outside of Kentucky and maybe Arkansas, the SEC has a very poor basketball pedigree. If you look at the NCAA Tournament history and assign points to each teams's performance, you'll find the SEC has only produced 2 programs in the Top 25 all-time.

Here's the scale:

10 points for each season in which a team gets to the NCAA Tournament
20 points for each season in which a team gets to the Sweet 16
50 points for each season in which a team gets to the Final 4
100 points for each season in which a team wins the National Title.

Here are the Top 10 programs of all-time:
1) Kentucky- 1870
2) UCLA- 1840
3) North Carolina- 1610
4) Duke- 1420
5) Kansas- 1310
6) Louisville- 1140
7) Indiana- 1100
8) Michigan State- 860
9) UConn- 850
10) Syracuse- 780

**Arkansas comes in at #16 all-time
**Florida comes in at #26 all-time
**LSU comes in at #35 all-time
**Missouri comes in at #47 all-time

No other program makes the Top 50

Here's how the SEC looks if you rank just the SEC:

1) Kentucky- 1870
2) Arkansas- 630
3) Florida- 510
4) LSU- 420
5) Missouri- 310
6) Tennessee- 270
7) Alabama- 260
8) Vanderbilt- 200
9) Texas A&M- 170
10) Mississippi State- 160
11) Georgia- 150
12) Auburn- 120
13) South Carolina- 110
14) Ole Miss- 90

Alabama's all-time performance in the NCAA Tournament ranks them in the middle-of-the-pack in the SEC. It ranks them in a 7-way tie for #60 all-time nationally.

While that's certainly better than a lot of programs in the league can claim, it is also certainly nothing to write home about. For some reason there is a myth among Alabama fans that their basketball program is right up underneath Kentucky as the #2 or #3 all-time in the SEC. This is absolutely a fantasy as there is very little evidence that supports such a claim.

As the OP suggested, one trip the the Sweet 16 during the last quarter century does not equal much success.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 11:00 am
Posted by bama will rise again
N Alabama
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 11:08 am to
I dont think most bama fans claim to be successful in basketball or baseball.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30316 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 11:12 am to
quote:

BHMKyle
When have we claimed to be successful in basketball or baseball? We are a football school first and foremost, we all know football is King at Alabama ~ always has been, always will be.

The bottom line here is that even though Alabama is a football school, the other 2 men's sports have been respectable.

The OP can't say the same.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 11:48 am to
You just wasted a whole lot of time and effort to "prove" something that no Bama fan disagrees with. The only time we ever bring up our wins in baseball and basketball is when dumbasses like the OP, who have no knowledge of SEC sports history, try to pretend we're a one trick pony and our other revenue sports have been historical bottom dwellers of the conference - which clearly isn't the case.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 11:50 am to
quote:

For some reason there is a myth among Alabama fans that their basketball program is right up underneath Kentucky as the #2 or #3 all-time in the SEC.


Based on all time wins, that would be accurate. Based on tournament success, that's obviously not the case.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15609 posts
Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:31 pm to
Slight correction to the scale you used BMHKyle :)

LSU would have 590 points, not 420.
4 FF x 50 pts ea. = 200
9 SS x 20 pts ea. = 180
21 Apps × 10 pts ea. = 210

Total 590 pts for 3rd place all time in SEC :)
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