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re: Is Tennessee the Ole Miss of the East?

Posted on 2/5/16 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by Dustin Johnson
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 5:59 pm to
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Says the person who can't just admit that they were wrong initially and move on
Wrong about what? I said Hugh Freeze has recruited better than Butch Jones since they've both been in the conference. That would be 2013, and as you've admitted, Freeze has. The only thing I've been wrong about is initially claiming UT went winless in conference play in '12, and that Jones has swept Vanderbilt.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 6:05 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:10 pm to
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Wrong about what? I said Hugh Freeze has recruited better than Butch Jones since they've both been in the conference. That would be 2013, and as you've admitted, Freeze has. The only thing I've been wrong about is initially claiming UT went winless in conference play in '12 and that Jones has swept Vanderbilt.


What's that thing about moving the goal posts? There was no mention of a time period, simply that Ole Miss has out recruited Tennessee. This is a very subjective statement, so I sought to quantify it. You can choose to disagree with my assessment, but to take a flat 4 year comparison when it neither provides any statistically significant differential nor levels the playing field given the detriment of 1st year classes is not really a sound basis for comparison. Additionally, using "class rank" as the measuring stick doesn't really help much in your scenario either for one simple reason - it's relative to the competition that year. If I take a flat 4 year comparison and I simply look at "Average player rating" from 247, Ole Miss loses there as well:

Tennessee
Avg Rating/player
2016 89.6
2015 89.43
2014 89.51
2013 87.85

TOTAL: 89.0975

Ole Miss
Avg Rating/player
2016 90.92
2015 87.8
2014 87.42
2013 84.57

TOTAL: 87.6775

Again, the numbers fail to make your case. No one has even stated that Butch has out recruited Freeze, simply that they are about on the same playing field, but if you really dig into the numbers, you'd be slightly behind in many categories. The one place that I see you guys winning out is 5 stars (7 to UT's 1), but when accounting for total talent brought in, it would appear that Ole Miss doesn't win that battle either.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:19 pm to
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Wrong about what? I said Hugh Freeze has recruited better than Butch Jones since they've both been in the conference.


NO, THEY frickING HAVEN'T YOU frickING DIMWIT.
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