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Want to see someone actually post a solid analysis of Clemson's offense
Posted on 1/10/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 1/10/16 at 4:55 pm
What do you guys think they run? What's their MO?
Really curious to see what people think of their offense.
Really curious to see what people think of their offense.
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Posted on 1/10/16 at 4:57 pm to Kcoyote
Chad Kelly couldn't even start there so Bama is done, it's over.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:03 pm to Kcoyote
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What do you guys think they run? What's their MO?
Really curious to see what people think of their offense.
Wait a second, are you talking about an X's and O's discussion?
This board is hardly the place for that.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:04 pm to RebelExpress38
I believe Clemson possesses the pieces that most often have given Alabama's D problems the last several years. A Dynamic running QB who has the ability to beat you down the field with his arm especially if you need to commit safeties in run support. The skill players for Clemson are strong, but Bama will be the most disciplined and talented defense they have played. Keep an eye out early on Clemson running the ball and whether the safeties must come up to help control DW.
Ironically, the same issue will likely determine the game on the other side of the ball. Can the Clemson D-line which is very talented, more talented than anyone Bama has seen this season stop the running game without needing safety help? Coker has impressed me this season, but struggles to pass when the run game isn't hitting on all cylinders and causing safeties to be linebackers more than DB's. To Bama's credit there hasn't been many series this year where the run game has struggled. If Clemson needs safety help to stop Henry chalk up another title for Bama.
Ironically, the same issue will likely determine the game on the other side of the ball. Can the Clemson D-line which is very talented, more talented than anyone Bama has seen this season stop the running game without needing safety help? Coker has impressed me this season, but struggles to pass when the run game isn't hitting on all cylinders and causing safeties to be linebackers more than DB's. To Bama's credit there hasn't been many series this year where the run game has struggled. If Clemson needs safety help to stop Henry chalk up another title for Bama.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:06 pm to A Lite
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Wait a second, are you talking about an X's and O's discussion?
This board is hardly the place for that.
Yes I am. Mostly because people are assuming things about Clemson that are simply untrue. People think they are throwing all over the field and are a air raid, hunh team. They imply elements of hunh and they run plays that would make you think of the air-raid, but in general it's not the case.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:08 pm to Kcoyote
Can Bama get pressure with 4 & 5? If yes, then it will be a long game for Clemson. I would imagine that our goal would be similar to Michigan State. 2 Deep safeties to limit the big play. Give up a little underneath, see if they can stay patient or get frustrated. Play conservatively, capitalize on mistakes. Take shots at the right time.
If not, then that really opens up to the issues of a mobile quarterback. It will be a very competitive game in that case.
If not, then that really opens up to the issues of a mobile quarterback. It will be a very competitive game in that case.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:08 pm to Kcoyote
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Yes I am. Mostly because people are assuming things about Clemson that are simply untrue. People think they are throwing all over the field and are a air raid, hunh team. They imply elements of hunh and they run plays that would make you think of the air-raid, but in general it's not the case.
This Clemson O is more like Auburn 2010 and 2013 combined than Clemson O's of the last several years. DW isn't Cam or Nick but he is smack in the middle of them skill wise.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:09 pm to Kcoyote
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Want to see someone actually post a solid analysis of Clemson's offense
What do you guys think they run? What's their MO?
Really curious to see what people think of their offense.
SCAR fans know more about Clemson's offense than any others.
Use the KISS principle.
Stop Watson ... win the game. Keep him contained, put pressure on him and when he is flushed outta the pocket get to him, don't allow him to dump-off while he is scrambling, or take off and pick-up 1st downs ... you win the game.
It's that simple.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:10 pm to Tigerman97
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I believe Clemson possesses the pieces that most often have given Alabama's D problems the last several years. A Dynamic running QB who has the ability to beat you down the field with his arm especially if you need to commit safeties in run support. The skill players for Clemson are strong, but Bama will be the most disciplined and talented defense they have played. Keep an eye out early on Clemson running the ball and whether the safeties must come up to help control DW.
Ironically, the same issue will likely determine the game on the other side of the ball. Can the Clemson D-line which is very talented, more talented than anyone Bama has seen this season stop the running game without needing safety help? Coker has impressed me this season, but struggles to pass when the run game isn't hitting on all cylinders and causing safeties to be linebackers more than DB's. To Bama's credit there hasn't been many series this year where the run game has struggled. If Clemson needs safety help to stop Henry chalk up another title for Bama.
This is a solid analysis. I agree with most of it. I don't necessarily think Clemson's Dline or their run stopping ability is the best Alabama has faced this season however. I think Wisconsin, Mich. St. and Florida were better in that regard. However Clemson is above everyone else and is close to their caliber.
Clemson's secondary is probably the best we're going to face since Florida, but Florida is such an unbalanced team this year that just taking their defense out and transplanting it does nothing for analytical study. Their offense is a negative factor almost every game. So as an overall D, I'll give it to Clemson.
I think Clemson's biggest weakness is tackling by the linebackers. They're not the best at run stopping, and are sometimes walked right by when runs go past the first line.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:11 pm to Kcoyote
quote:Then you do it.
people are assuming things about Clemson that are simply untrue.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:12 pm to Gr8t8s
I also think that this game is on Lane's shoulders to call a great game. He took the decision making away from Coker against MSU by essentially having his 1st read as the right read every play. If he went through his progressions at any point in the game, I don't really remember it.
MSU had a great D-line, but not-so-great secondary. I don't think Clemson has as good of a D-line, but their secondary is superior. That will make Coker's job more difficult to make the right play. If he has to further "read" the defense, he needs to make the right play....throw it away if he has to. Limit sacks and no interceptions. Easier said than done.
MSU had a great D-line, but not-so-great secondary. I don't think Clemson has as good of a D-line, but their secondary is superior. That will make Coker's job more difficult to make the right play. If he has to further "read" the defense, he needs to make the right play....throw it away if he has to. Limit sacks and no interceptions. Easier said than done.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:12 pm to Gr8t8s
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Can Bama get pressure with 4 & 5? If yes, then it will be a long game for Clemson. I would imagine that our goal would be similar to Michigan State. 2 Deep safeties to limit the big play. Give up a little underneath, see if they can stay patient or get frustrated. Play conservatively, capitalize on mistakes. Take shots at the right time.
I honestly don't think that'll be our MO. I think we limit Watson running and turn him one dimensional. Clemson has struggled to put up TDs in the redzone, and Alabama allowed the fewest TDs in the redzone this year. I think stopping Watson from running is the biggest and most important gameplan for the defense. Remember, Dak Prescott threw for over 300 yards vs. Alabama, but didn't score at all because they never achieved balance on offense.
Alabama should play to its strengths and ensure that the running game is sufficiently contained, even if giving up some yards through the air is the result.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:16 pm to Diamondawg
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Then you do it.
Clemson doesn't line-up and just throw the ball all over the yard. They run a system very similar to what Kiffin calls. Tons of sweeps, misdirections, screen plays, bubbles, and short passes. They throw in long passes obviously, and hit the play-action once their running game gets going, but to assume that Clemson runs this crazy type of streak pattern every play is ridiculous. And it's something that is brought up all the time as fact. Clemson's passing attack is good. It's damn good. But it is a much more balanced offense than a true air-raid. They run a balanced offense, and use their QB often in draws and designed options, especially in the last 5 weeks. They also are not solely a hunh team in terms of pace. They run quick plays, but they still rely on TOP and keeping the clock winding down, much more so than people think.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:16 pm to Kcoyote
Clemson O
fast
stacked
dual-threat QB
misdirection
hunh
Bama's worst nightmare
fast
stacked
dual-threat QB
misdirection
hunh
Bama's worst nightmare
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:17 pm to Kcoyote
I live in SC. I am not sure why anyone would discount their Dline. They are the 2nd best in the country IMO behind Bama. MSU doesn't have near the NFL talent as Clemson.
I agree with the statement about the LB's they play well and can cover the pass well but when Clemson struggled they didn't fill well. The DB's are strong. The Alexander kid is a special corner.
I agree with the statement about the LB's they play well and can cover the pass well but when Clemson struggled they didn't fill well. The DB's are strong. The Alexander kid is a special corner.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:22 pm to Tigerman97
I agree about their Dline. I'll say for that specific unit and it's ability to run-stuff and get to the QB, it'll be the best we've faced this year. However as a unit combined with the linebackers, their run stopping is not as solid as Mich. St. or Florida or Wisconsin. They're very, very good at it.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:54 pm to Kcoyote
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Mostly because people are assuming things about Clemson that are simply untrue. People think they are throwing all over the field and are a air raid
No one has assumed that. Stop making up dragon to slay.
If anything people assume they are a zone read team because Watson can run the ball.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:59 pm to LSU1NSEC
Actually slick, our worst nightmare is 5 turnovers and a fluke pass play. This isn't the 2013 defense. Watch tomorrow as we make Clemson and Watson look like a high school offense from Texas.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 6:04 pm to scrooster
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SCAR fans know more about Clemson's offense than any others.
Use the KISS principle.
Stop Watson ... win the game. Keep him contained, put pressure on him and when he is flushed outta the pocket get to him, don't allow him to dump-off while he is scrambling, or take off and pick-up 1st downs ... you win the game.
It's that simple.
For the record, Watson is now 2-0 against USC. Consider that when listening to the expert coot
Posted on 1/10/16 at 6:06 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Is Clemson actually HUNH? I haven't watched them much at all this year, but I know they operate more of a spread offense, and Watson is a dual threat QB.
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