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re: Sumlin's decisiveness

Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:29 pm to
The 2012 defense was average, people remember it more fondly because our offense made the scoring gap in many games so wide. It was aided by teams having to go into full blown comeback mode so often as well.

The 2013 defense was unforgivably awful. Chavis could take the defense from Katy High School and not field a defense that bad. It was simply a firable offense, no way around it. Even Billy Liucci was surprised Snyder wasn't fired. I have no idea what you are remembering, but there was outrage when he was retained. The post-Duke Snyder meltdown on TA was top notch. As for Chavis, great as he was he contacted Sumlin and just fell into our lap because he wanted out at LSU.

It was evident last year Spav was playing checkers while DCs played chess. I could and still can call out about 70% of our plays pre snap based on formation, line alignment and down/distance. If I can, Kirby Smart sure as hell can. For two years now our backs and tackles routinely give away run/pass based on presnap actions. That's so pathetic it actually makes me wonder if our coaches are so blind that they just don't see it. Seriously, watch Ifedi before the snap and in about five plays you'll know most of the time where it's a run or pass just based on what he does with his feet.

McKinney hasn't recruited well since 2013 and is supposedly the reason we've lost some key guys.

Sumlin doesn't make changes until he is essentially forced to by AD and donor pressure. Know this: Sumlin would keep Spav as OC if he could. The choice was not his. The big money boys said Spav goes or we cut off your recruiting budget. He has been made aware that if he doesn't knock this hire out of the park, his job will not survive and some very unflattering information will come out to reduce the buyout.

Sumlin is being dragged kicking and screaming across the threshold of change here. Most people have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. The people who think he makes good changes on time are the same ones who think he is the sole reason our recruiting improved so much. Our recruiting improved in large part because the BMA stepped up in 2012 and started playing ball like most other big programs do. You think Sumlin kept Kyler committed? We cut Kevin Murray a five figure check for that. We aren't anywhere near Ole Miss or Auburn or Phio State, but we are definitely giving him some monetary help on the recruiting trail.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:35 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80428 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:35 pm to
I dare you to post that on the zoo or junction.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46555 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:37 pm to
On a related note, many in the know are waiting for the other shoe to drop with regards to Ole Miss. When it comes out and the sanctions hit, and it will happen, people will be SHOCKED. It's so beyond what people joke about on the rant. They are all in and it's SWC mid-80s level stuff.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:53 pm to
I agree with your point that Sumlin doesn't embrace change until he is forced to, and he seems very loyal to subpar coaches when he shouldn't be with the budget he has. I remember after last year we wanted both coordinators fired, but since that was impractical for recruiting Snyder needed to go more and we celebrated that change.

With that said, if we get a great OC hire it will be hard to not stay on CEO Sumlin's bandwagon. I think Mack Brown proved a glad-handling politician is the best way to dominate this state, and Sumlin is that in spades. Let Chavis handle the defensive and Mystery Koolaidman X handle the offense while Sumlin does the recruiting, high school coach blowjobs and social media. Boom.

It would sound crazy, but I feel that Chavis is the best single coach A&M has had since RC. If we can Sumlin he is probably gone too, and I want to see his defense play out one more year at least. Plus Texas being so unstable right now means any place with stability in the state benefits recruiting-wise, and I want to see Sumlin sign a class outside the top 20 before I get off the bandwagon.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80428 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 12:48 am to
quote:

The 2012 defense was average, people remember it more fondly because our offense made the scoring gap in many games so wide. It was aided by teams having to go into full blown comeback mode so often as well.


Let's not forget that, after the defensive starters, the reserves (who would become the 2013 starters) were TERRIBLE.

Case in point was the Louisiana Tech game (with 4 starters suspended), the Auburn game (was 49-7 when we pulled the starters), the Sam Houston State game (was 47-0 when we pulled the starters), and the Missouri game (was 42-0 when we pulled the starters)
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2635 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:59 am to
That's some pretty serious stuff you posted.

I don't like that it sounds like Sumlin is very resistant to change on an OC when everybody else that isn't blind can see one needs to be made. Interesting that we had to pony up to get Kyler to stay, I don't follow recruiting that much anymore but from what I saw that recruitment was one of the weirdest ones I've seen in awhile.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:28 am to
I'm sorry some of that may be true and I would not be shocked, but the AD and the HC have a contentious relationship in just about every major athletic program in the country. That's in large part because the HC doesn't really report to the AD, he reports to the BOR and in reality the boosters. So AD insiders criticizing the head coach is nothing but commonplace.

Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:08 am to
Roger, what's the deal with Christensen? Is he staying? His unit was clearly the worst, and he made almost the same amount of money as Spav. His recruiting is also subpar. He needs to go.

I'm curious as to why the OL was so terrible though. Was it DC's incompetence? Laziness? Bashing heads with Spav? All of the above?
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