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re: Ole Miss student senate votes to remove state flag.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 10:29 am to NYCAuburn
Posted on 10/23/15 at 10:29 am to NYCAuburn
I did not gloss over anything. You are putting figures into something no figure can be added to.
Again I admitted that slavery was an undertow in the issues, but to say it was sole cause or even final cause is simplistic and not looking at the climate.
And back to my original post in this topic, people are dug into their beliefs and teachings so nothing is going to be solved. It is a political debate that will rage for centuries and yet none of us can understand the meaning, as for one specific reason...we weren't there so we really do not know, we are applying our values to a time and place that has been dead and gone
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I use this with the kids I work with and needs to be used in this debate.
It happened, we move on, and learn from it; do not let something we do cause us to repeat mistakes or things from the past haunt us.
Again I admitted that slavery was an undertow in the issues, but to say it was sole cause or even final cause is simplistic and not looking at the climate.
And back to my original post in this topic, people are dug into their beliefs and teachings so nothing is going to be solved. It is a political debate that will rage for centuries and yet none of us can understand the meaning, as for one specific reason...we weren't there so we really do not know, we are applying our values to a time and place that has been dead and gone
ETA:
I use this with the kids I work with and needs to be used in this debate.
It happened, we move on, and learn from it; do not let something we do cause us to repeat mistakes or things from the past haunt us.
This post was edited on 10/23/15 at 10:35 am
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Posted on 10/23/15 at 10:37 am to sms151t
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And back to my original post in this topic, people are dug into their beliefs and teachings so nothing is going to be solved. It is a political debate that will rage for centuries and yet none of us can understand the meaning, as for one specific reason...we weren't there so we really do not know, we are applying our values to a time and place that has been dead and gone
You're just plain wrong. My opinions on the matter have changed over time, especially as I read more and more documents from the actual period.
And to say that we were not there, and therefore cannot know, is no reason to ignore the very reasons explicitly stated by those responsible parties:
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In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.
Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world.
There is NO ambiguity in Mississippi's STATED reason for secession - NONE. Why do you gloss over the very words that explain the causes?
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