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Posted on 10/23/15 at 3:55 am to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 10/23/15 at 3:55 am to TbirdSpur2010
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You do realize the South literally fired the first shots of the war, right?
Tell me something if someone is on your property and is armed. You ask them to leave and provide them safe passage back to there home and they refuse to leave. Who is the aggressor?
On April 19, 1861, shortly after the outbreak of hostilities at Charleston Harbor, US President Abraham Lincoln proclaimed a blockade of ports in the seceded states. On April 27, after Virginia and North Carolina had also passed ordinances of secession, the blockade was extended to include their ports also.
April 12–14, 1861 was the engagement at Ft. Sumter followed by a blockade command by Lincoln a week later. Had Lincoln left the south alone there would not have been a war.
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Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:25 am to oneusairman
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if someone is on your property and is armed. You ask them to leave and provide them safe passage back to there home and they refuse to leave. Who is the aggressor?
Jesus Christ. That was US soil. That fort had been there. The federal government was under no obligation to leave any southern post just because secessionists decided to go rogue.
YOU are the aggressor in this scenario. To suggest otherwise is poppycock and, frankly demonstrates a remarkably poor grasp of national sovereignty.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:41 am to oneusairman
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Tell me something if someone is on your property and is armed. You ask them to leave and provide them safe passage back to there home and they refuse to leave. Who is the aggressor?
On April 19, 1861, shortly after the outbreak of hostilities at Charleston Harbor, US President Abraham Lincoln proclaimed a blockade of ports in the seceded states. On April 27, after Virginia and North Carolina had also passed ordinances of secession, the blockade was extended to include their ports also.
April 12–14, 1861 was the engagement at Ft. Sumter followed by a blockade command by Lincoln a week later. Had Lincoln left the south alone there would not have been a war.
The south attacked a United States military position which the troops were under no obligation to abandon simply because the southern states decided to secede. The Fort was not the property of the Confederacy just because they said so you halfwit.
By firing on Fort Sumter, a US military position, the Confederacy declared war on the United States.
Posted on 10/23/15 at 9:57 am to oneusairman
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Tell me something if someone is on your property and is armed. You ask them to leave and provide them safe passage back to there home and they refuse to leave. Who is the aggressor? On April 19, 1861, shortly after the outbreak of hostilities at Charleston Harbor, US President Abraham Lincoln proclaimed a blockade of ports in the seceded states. On April 27, after Virginia and North Carolina had also passed ordinances of secession, the blockade was extended to include their ports also. April 12–14, 1861 was the engagement at Ft. Sumter followed by a blockade command by Lincoln a week later. Had Lincoln left the south alone there would not have been a war.
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April 12, 1861 REBELS fire on the US ARMY stationed at a US FORT, and you think if the US PRESIDENT had left the REBELS alone - and let them get away with cannonading a US FORT - we could have avoided the war. But that the US PRESIDENT took action against the REBELS, the war is his fault?
Wholly frick, urine idiot.
I've answered your questions, answer this one:
If there had not been slavery in the US, would there have been a civil war?
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