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re: Are Florida's wins over KY, MO and TN vacated because of Grier's steriod use?

Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:38 pm to
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more like a roided up Tebow wannabe..


There aren't enough roids in the world to get him to Tebow's level. I meant that he was a good match with the Florida D and made the Gators a threat to the West.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65116 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:41 pm to
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It's a shame the kid was dumb enough to not ask about the OTC drug.

that's what makes me highly doubt it was an innocent mistake. first, the kid can get whatever supplements he needs, more than likely, from florida. i'm sure they have a team nutritionist as well as his S&C coach. there's really no need to outsource supplements on your own. second, it seems as if his father may be some sort of competitive body builder or personal trainer. having all these resources around, he really has no excuse to have used something that was banned and it be an innocent oversight. my best guess is he took illegal and took his chances he wouldn't be among the few players that were chosen to be randomly screened. i'm not naive enough to think there aren't a ton of college players taking banned substances because the ncaa testing program really is a joke for the most part.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6426 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:50 pm to
CATLANTA...

quote:

I think UK should be invited as a honorary SEC championship team, to Atlanta, maybe the day after the real game, they can use the locker rooms, get their logo painted on the endzone and even receive a gift basket. 

It's the right thing to do.
Posted by BayouBengal02
Member since Aug 2015
66 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:56 pm to
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It's fun to talk about though. I think the other fanbases are tired of Georgia and Florida winning the East every year and would like to see the other teams represented. If it weren't Florida and not the QB, I doubt anyone would care.


If other fanbases are tired of seeing Florida/Georgia play in Atlanta then there is a simple solution..... GET BETTER
Posted by Homespun
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2009
419 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:35 pm to
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Not really. False positives are not uncommon. No vacancies can happen because of this so it would have been foolish to pull Grier from the Mizzou game. The right decision was to play him.


Completely agree with you, as does the NCAA and I'm sure every compliance department in the country.
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17286 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:55 pm to
sorry for the error, I was under the impression that if a + came back another test was run not 2 samples on the first test.
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
484 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 5:12 pm to
Okay, some of you don't seem to understand how the process of vacating games works.

First of all, and as had been pointed out, the win is wiped from one team, but the loss remains for the other.

However, some of you stated that it takes years to vacate games. While this has been the case at the FBS level every time, lower divisions often vacate games when they illegal players is discovered. While there's too much money involved in this, it probably won't happen here, but there's no reason it couldn't.

Also, some of you seem to think that only the NCAA can vacate games. This is not the case, either. Teams can self-vacate (Louisiana Lafayette just did), and conferences can vacate games. They don't have to wait years to do so.

Often times, in cases where a team looks to vacate or forfeit a game because of an illegal player, they look to see if that player made a significant impact. In this case, the answer would be yes to that.

While I don't see it happening at all, and it probably would take years for it to happen, it's at least possible and some of you are saying it's not.
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 5:15 pm to
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Yes, but according to the currents standings, this would be good enough to send Kentucky to Atlanta.

Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:39 pm to
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eking out wins over Tenner and the basketball school,, wow,, so impressed..


We did beat the 2 time defending East champ in their house on homecoming by three scores, oh and we blew out the #3 team in America.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19258 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 4:46 am to
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We did beat the 2 time defending East champ in their house on homecoming by three scores, oh and we blew out the #3 team in America.


Are they currently ranked?

Those wins mean nothing.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17250 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 5:15 am to
I'm more concerned about just winning the remaining games on our schedule rather than hoping the stars align in our favor. While they certainly have thus far, if we simply win then Atlanta will take care of itself. We can start by whipping the Barners tonight.
Posted by austingator
austin
Member since Jan 2009
7442 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:47 am to
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Those wins mean nothing.


I know right MO, TN, Ole Miss, KY suck!
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22810 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:50 am to
because this is what is standing in Kentucky's way...

Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99290 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 6:56 am to
You also said Anthony Davis wouldn't be the best big man in the SEC.

Sorry if we think your opinion is shite.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6516 posts
Posted on 10/15/15 at 7:18 am to
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3-0


Vacated is not forfeited.

Even if they will be vacated it won't be during the season.
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