re: I'm tired of people trying to argue the Big 10/PAC 12 are on our level

If Bert had stayed he would have passed him. He only needed about 50 more wins which he could have easily gotten in about 6-7 more years, if not a year or two sooner. He was winning at a quicker rate than Alvarez had.

Now he can barely win an SEC game, using the same principles and philosophy. The competition is just so much better in the SEC.

When is the last time Indiana (4-0 I know), Iowa, Illinois, Purdue were any good? Even Vandy had back-to-back 9 win seasons recently.