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re: How mad is Dylan Roof?

Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:54 pm to
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Yes, or not a citizen (like the Jews, and hey, maybe like illegal Mexicans


Jews were born in Germany... Mexicans.. umm.. Mexico and entered, ILLEGALLY. You're really comparing the two? It was easier to get a firearm, unless you were designated a noncitizen, although born in that country? Really, that's your argument?

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I'm sure they'd vote 4 to 1 to keep firearms out of illegal immigrants' hands


Again... your argument is that Nazism is to right wing, because one held guns from it's citizens, while right wingers would rather have them out of the hands of illegal persons?

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Jews were not considered citizens


They were, til they weren't. When have illegal immigrants ever been considered citizens in the U.S.?

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That was just a response against your allegation that I'm akin to Salon, which in my opinion is pretty unfair since I hate the frick out of Salon


You should read it, yall have very similar talking points on the German Weapons Act and gun control. Very similar.

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Yes. Serial numbers, too. It's easier to track when they get stolen


So would keeping a bill of sale to file in a police report, and it wouldn't be an overstep of Gov't intervention on a Right. Requiring Gov't intervention for family transfer is ridiculous and socialist and left wing as well.

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quote:If a person is not in jail, you suggest that a Constitutional Right should have a Government check up on them? Where did I say that?


Look up.

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False equivalence is a logical fallacy which describes a situation where there is a logical and apparent equivalence, but when in fact there is none. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1]


Like comparing illegal immigrants born in another country not purchasing firearms, compared to persons born in the same country not purchasing firearms because of their religion and saying they're both right wing.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 7/2/15 at 2:01 pm to
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Jews were born in Germany... Mexicans.. umm.. Mexico and entered, ILLEGALLY. You're really comparing the two? It was easier to get a firearm, unless you were designated a noncitizen, although born in that country? Really, that's your argument?



You do understand that Jews were not considered citizens, even if they were born in Germany, yes?

Because I posted it like three times now.

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Again... your argument is that Nazism is to right wing, because one held guns from it's citizens, while right wingers would rather have them out of the hands of illegal persons?


Yes, even those born in the United States. I can guarantee you the GOP would try to restrict ''citizens'' from purchasing firearms.

https://www.endillegalimmigration.com/Illegal_Immigration_Laws/

So would you say this is a right-wing site, or a left-wing site? I'll give you a hint right now...it's not left-wing.

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They were, til they weren't. When have illegal immigrants ever been considered citizens in the U.S.?


This conversation is getting stupid -- ''they were 'til they weren't'', have you not seen the immigration laws? Even 3nOut said that the immigration policies were much closer to the right wing than the left wing.

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So would keeping a bill of sale to file in a police report, and it wouldn't be an overstep of Gov't intervention on a Right. Requiring Gov't intervention for family transfer is ridiculous and socialist and left wing as well.


Aside from uh, the government being involved (and not being able to restrict anything), what is the downside exactly to having a registered weapon?

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Like comparing illegal immigrants born in another country not purchasing firearms, compared to persons born in the same country not purchasing firearms because of their religion and saying they're both right wing.


You know how children born in the United States are American citizens, except for very small circumstances?

Remember how you were like: They were citizens until they weren't?

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/229778-bill-would-end-birthright-citizenship

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Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) re-introduced legislation this week that would end birthright citizenship.


A Republican trying to change it so they're not U.S. Citizens?

Say it ain't so. Analogy is actually spot on, wouldn't you say?

This post was edited on 7/2/15 at 2:03 pm
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