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re: How mad is Dylan Roof?

Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:57 pm to
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So long as you weren't a certain religion.


Yes, or not a citizen (like the Jews, and hey, maybe like illegal Mexicans!!11!)

This whole string is completely irrelevant -- it was easier (as long as you weren't a Jew) to access a firearm.

Period.

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So you sayin the right wing here want's to keep blacks from owning guns today? Only one party wants to keep guns outta hands today.


I'm sure they'd vote 4 to 1 to keep firearms out of illegal immigrants' hands.

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Unless, they were Jews, no matter they were born IN GERMANY.


Jews were not considered citizens.

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I wasn't in the military. I did however set up an FF...


That was just a response against your allegation that I'm akin to Salon, which in my opinion is pretty unfair since I hate the frick out of Salon.

I have a background in firearms, I love firearms, that I think on the issue of firearms Republicans are closer than Democrats isn't me calling for a rewriting of history.

Just that they're more alike, and it doesn't mean anything that they are.

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So, you think there should be paperwork for private citizen to private citizen sales?


Yes. Serial numbers, too. It's easier to track when they get stolen.

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Father to son sales and gifts?


If they have a serial number, sure.

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If a person is not in jail, you suggest that a Constitutional Right should have a Government check up on them?


Where did I say that? Just in the case of accidents, missing or stolen weapons or investigations -- I don't see any problem with tracking firearms.

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Perhaps folks should have to register to give a public speech as well.


False equivalence is a logical fallacy which describes a situation where there is a logical and apparent equivalence, but when in fact there is none. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1]
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:54 pm to
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Yes, or not a citizen (like the Jews, and hey, maybe like illegal Mexicans


Jews were born in Germany... Mexicans.. umm.. Mexico and entered, ILLEGALLY. You're really comparing the two? It was easier to get a firearm, unless you were designated a noncitizen, although born in that country? Really, that's your argument?

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I'm sure they'd vote 4 to 1 to keep firearms out of illegal immigrants' hands


Again... your argument is that Nazism is to right wing, because one held guns from it's citizens, while right wingers would rather have them out of the hands of illegal persons?

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Jews were not considered citizens


They were, til they weren't. When have illegal immigrants ever been considered citizens in the U.S.?

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That was just a response against your allegation that I'm akin to Salon, which in my opinion is pretty unfair since I hate the frick out of Salon


You should read it, yall have very similar talking points on the German Weapons Act and gun control. Very similar.

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Yes. Serial numbers, too. It's easier to track when they get stolen


So would keeping a bill of sale to file in a police report, and it wouldn't be an overstep of Gov't intervention on a Right. Requiring Gov't intervention for family transfer is ridiculous and socialist and left wing as well.

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quote:If a person is not in jail, you suggest that a Constitutional Right should have a Government check up on them? Where did I say that?


Look up.

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False equivalence is a logical fallacy which describes a situation where there is a logical and apparent equivalence, but when in fact there is none. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1]


Like comparing illegal immigrants born in another country not purchasing firearms, compared to persons born in the same country not purchasing firearms because of their religion and saying they're both right wing.
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