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Should division record be the only record that matters?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:40 am
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:40 am
Georgia plays both Bama and auburn this year and could very well lose to both, but still go undefeated in the east. Let's say missouri only loses to georgia, sorry really deserve to win the east. A one loss division champ over an undefeated division team?
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:45 am to geauxnavybeatbama
It won't matter when UT runs the table 
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:53 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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Should division record be the only record that matters?
No....all conference games matter...next question
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:58 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Wut
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:59 am to geauxnavybeatbama
No
If you want to go to Atlanta then win your games. Can't control the schedule, just win.
If you want to go to Atlanta then win your games. Can't control the schedule, just win.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:01 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Depends on your season goal.
For Georgia, their only realistic goal is to win the SEC East, so yes.
For 'Bama and Auburn, their realistic goal is to win National Championship, so every game matters.
For Georgia, their only realistic goal is to win the SEC East, so yes.
For 'Bama and Auburn, their realistic goal is to win National Championship, so every game matters.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:08 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Yes, but we should go back to a 10 team conference and play everyone.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:10 am to geauxnavybeatbama
The HBC was making this argument a few years ago and I tend to agree with it. Division record only makes more sense. That still means Mizzou was East champs the last two years though in case you were insinuating something. 
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:13 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Understand the sentiment, but that is what you get when people are so concerned with "rivalry" games. Same goes for whoever gets Vandy and Kentucky from the East though.
If Missouri (or whoever else) goes 7-1 while Georgia goes 6-2, so be it. Get a different rival.
If Missouri (or whoever else) goes 7-1 while Georgia goes 6-2, so be it. Get a different rival.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:19 am to geauxnavybeatbama
For the purpose of winning the division, yes division record should be all that matters. It's BS that a if UGA went undefeated in the East but loses to Auburn or Bama that they might not win the East.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:34 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Nope. They do need to dump this stupid 6-1-1 format and go to a 6-3 schedule with the additional conference game.
SEC has the most retarded scheduling format in the county.
SEC has the most retarded scheduling format in the county.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:45 am to geauxnavybeatbama
#allgamesmatter
Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:00 am to geauxnavybeatbama
Seems like LSU fans would stop with this nonsense now that Florida sucks. Yes, you should be able to get pummeled in 2 SEC games and go to the SEC Championship over a team that loses by 1 point to a division rival on the road. 
Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:13 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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Should division record be the only record that matters?
SC in '11.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:22 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
No. I like the forced parity based on historical dominance. I think it should go to 9 games though so you're playing your rival of relative historic equal, one good historically and one bad historically.
LSU's should cross division games should be:
Florida, Tennessee and Vandy one year
Florida, Georgia and Kentucky the next.
Florida, South Carolina and Mizzou the next.
LSU's should cross division games should be:
Florida, Tennessee and Vandy one year
Florida, Georgia and Kentucky the next.
Florida, South Carolina and Mizzou the next.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:30 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I agree that by using the term east champion and west champion the current system is contradicting.
The sec west should have no bearing on who the sec east champ is and vice versa. Now if you want to take the top 2 overall records in the sec and have them play an sec championship game that makes sense for including all games.
NCAA D1/Conference/division
-these are three things you can be champion of. It should only trickle up not down. How does losing an out of conference game affect being a conference champ? It doesn't... Why would would losing and out of division game effect being a division champ?
Before people say "well the division is in the conference," well the conference is in the NCAA so that's not logical in my opinion.
After all my babbling, obviously total conference record makes sense in determining a champion, but not if you are split into divisions. Overall conference record makes sense in determining your national title hopes just like total overall record (including OOC games) does.
The sec west should have no bearing on who the sec east champ is and vice versa. Now if you want to take the top 2 overall records in the sec and have them play an sec championship game that makes sense for including all games.
NCAA D1/Conference/division
-these are three things you can be champion of. It should only trickle up not down. How does losing an out of conference game affect being a conference champ? It doesn't... Why would would losing and out of division game effect being a division champ?
Before people say "well the division is in the conference," well the conference is in the NCAA so that's not logical in my opinion.
After all my babbling, obviously total conference record makes sense in determining a champion, but not if you are split into divisions. Overall conference record makes sense in determining your national title hopes just like total overall record (including OOC games) does.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:36 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Yes.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:14 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
If division record should be the only record that matters, what would be the point of playing cross-division conference games? You might as well get rid of TSIO and DSOR because those games wouldn't mean anything.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:07 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Really depends on the playoff criteria, to be honest. Would Bama have made it into the final 4 playoffs in 2011, or 2013? They were 10-1 both seasons, and widely considered to be one of the top 2 teams in the SEC (and generally, top 4 before the bowls).
If the SEC does some probing, and the answer seems to be "no", then I think you have to look at restructuring the entire conference championship, get rid of divisions and get the two best teams into the game. Let them play to determine which team makes it into the Field of 4. Otherwise, you run a serious risk of (for example) Mizzou or Georgia winning the SEC game, and knocking the conference completely out of the running.
If the SEC does some probing, and the answer seems to be "no", then I think you have to look at restructuring the entire conference championship, get rid of divisions and get the two best teams into the game. Let them play to determine which team makes it into the Field of 4. Otherwise, you run a serious risk of (for example) Mizzou or Georgia winning the SEC game, and knocking the conference completely out of the running.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:01 am to geauxnavybeatbama
I think so. I think you should earn the right to represent your division in the conference championship based on the divisional record.
But I'm sure if I were playing Tennessee every year I would think otherwise
But I'm sure if I were playing Tennessee every year I would think otherwise
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