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OT: Redrawing boundaries for a greater St. Louis

Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:25 pm
Posted by hipgnosis
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:25 pm
Mainly wanting to get some feedback from fellow St. Louisans.

Article on Stltoday about changing the city-county relationship and consolidating cities for a better St. Louis.


"Nobody — absolutely nobody — would design St. Louis today with 90 cities, two counties, 82 municipal courts, and 58 police departments. It simply wouldn’t happen. So why do we put up with it when all the evidence says it is costing us in so many ways?"



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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111597 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:28 pm to
We need some realignment.

Once the incentive of having your own city government is gone (much of which could happen with the passing of the bill maxing out city revenue from court money at 10% of the budget), it could help speed this process up.

What doesn't need to happen is a system where the county is drawn into the political sewer that is the city and is drug down with it.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:40 pm to
That article talked about it in very general terms with little talk of the details of what they'd propose, what the impact of those proposals would be and so forth.

In a general sense, I absolutely agree that some reorganizing and redrawing needs to be done. Exactly what or how I'm not sure I've heard any great plans.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 3/27/15 at 6:52 pm to
Would probably make sense if some of the suburban areas consolidated. I don't know much of the politics of STL, but I sincerely doubt any of the more affluent areas are going to want to combine with the city or any of the smaller lower income/high crime towns to subsidize their issues with the nicer towns tax dollars.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19257 posts
Posted on 3/28/15 at 8:12 am to

Redrawing boundaries isn't going to cure what's wrong with St. Louis.

It's no exaggeration to say the first 10 minutes of the local news is spent running down that day's murders, shootings, drive-by's, beatings, grand theft auto's, high speed pursuits and smash and grabs. It's become a daily assault to the senses. A significant percentage of an entire generation of 15-25 year olds has been lost. No moral compass whatever.

How this is impacting business and tourism can only be guessed at, but what informed person in their right mind would want to relocate, relocate a business or spend a vacation visiting St. Louis right now? Or at any time in the foreseeable future? I live here and have no desire to ever set foot in the city or North County again. I will of course, but there will always be the lingering thought, "Will tonight be the night random violence will happen to or around us?"

Hopefully there are local leaders who can turn this around. It's happened in New York City and elsewhere, but given the breadth and depth of the problems I have my doubts.
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