I disagree ACC is crap, some of the better programs have been down in recent years like Miami and Va Tech, but ACC held its own against SEC this year despite that. People forget how good the ACC was when TOmmy Bowden was at Clemson, that was why he was fired midseason. You had the Matt Ryan years at BC, Philip Rivers years at NC State, Marland had 5 good years where they were ranked in top 10, etc.

Clemson's title run wasn't result of cheating. that was about a player in TN who was never on Clemson's title team or any team and Clemson got 2 season bowl ban for what seems like minor infraction. it was a booster giving some gifts to the player or something. Meanwhile UNC has a received no punishment for their recent scandals. The ACC commish is a UNC guy who hates a Clemson like you guys.

I have never bragged about Clemson in terms of football success. you guys talk trash about Clemson's football program and then get upset if I point out your tradition comes with a huge grain of salt. I didn't even bring up the possiliby that your last title featured a QB that was likely paid by the university to go there. that rumor is out there. we know for a fact the dad shopped the kid.

the only thing I 'brag' about regarding Clemson is it is nestled in the foothills of a mountain next to a lake.

a lot years ACc actually has a lot better skilled players on offense than SEC but SEC has bigger hosses up front on both sides of the ball. I think when you say one conference is better than another you miss nuances like this

This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 10:19 pm