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Old sec scheduling policies.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 3/12/15 at 11:13 pm
As someone who has never known a world without an SEC with divisions I always wondered what scheduling was like before then. It seemed like each team kindve had its own set of "rivals" that it played every year and then I guess the rest rotated although I'm having a hard time seeing any regularity in those games. So if anyone wants to share any of the old formats that would be incredibly interesting.
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Posted on 3/12/15 at 11:17 pm to jlovel7
Only 7 sec games and 11 total games.
I believe we had 5 constant and rotated home away / away home through the others
Eta:82-87 was a 6 game with 5 constant;
further back you played anywhere between 4-7 depending on historical scheduling.
I believe we had 5 constant and rotated home away / away home through the others
Eta:82-87 was a 6 game with 5 constant;
further back you played anywhere between 4-7 depending on historical scheduling.
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 3/12/15 at 11:19 pm to jlovel7
GT vs Tulane was "must listen" Morse code click every year.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 11:20 pm to jlovel7
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So if anyone wants to share any of the old formats that would be incredibly interesting
Bama made sure State was on the schedule
Posted on 3/13/15 at 12:30 am to jlovel7
If I'm not mistaken there was no order to rotation. I believe that UT and UGA went decades without playing each other and I'm pretty sure there are some other examples out there.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 6:05 am to jlovel7
Georgia Tech leaving the conference made for some uneven scheduling.
UGA and AU kept GT on the schedule every year until GT joined ACC in the late 80's. UGA obviously maintains the in state rivalry.
Auburn played Bama, UGA, MSU, UT, and Florida every year I was in college.
Auburn and Florida have still played many more games that AU and Bama.
Before division play began in 1992, AU rarely played LSU or Ole Miss.
UGA and AU kept GT on the schedule every year until GT joined ACC in the late 80's. UGA obviously maintains the in state rivalry.
Auburn played Bama, UGA, MSU, UT, and Florida every year I was in college.
Auburn and Florida have still played many more games that AU and Bama.
Before division play began in 1992, AU rarely played LSU or Ole Miss.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 6:35 am to jlovel7
Prior to '92 UGA only played....
LSU 18 times...
MSU 17 times...
Tenn 21 times...
LSU 18 times...
MSU 17 times...
Tenn 21 times...
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:41 am to jlovel7
Ole Miss played UGA, Vandy, UT, LSU, and State every year. Never hardly played Auburn in the 70's and 80's. Played Tulane, Memphis State, Arkansas, and USM(until 1984) in the non-conference among others(Notre Dame in 85)
State played Florida, Auburn, Bama, LSU, and Ole Miss every year. Never played Vandy or Kentucky much which didn't make sense. Played Tulane, Memphis State, and USM every year non-conference as well as Miami(1980-83), Missouri, Illinois, Navy, Syracuse, and Colorado St among others. Non-conference schedules seemed to be better in the 80's. Teams like Memphis St, Tulane, and USM could compete back then. I also remember in 1980-81 OM and Bama played non-conference games against one another.
State played Florida, Auburn, Bama, LSU, and Ole Miss every year. Never played Vandy or Kentucky much which didn't make sense. Played Tulane, Memphis State, and USM every year non-conference as well as Miami(1980-83), Missouri, Illinois, Navy, Syracuse, and Colorado St among others. Non-conference schedules seemed to be better in the 80's. Teams like Memphis St, Tulane, and USM could compete back then. I also remember in 1980-81 OM and Bama played non-conference games against one another.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 8:48 am
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:16 am to jlovel7
SEC schools would regularly schedule ACC teams as conference games as well.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:46 am to jlovel7
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:46 am to jlovel7
I miss the Ole Miss / UT games. We have more of a rivalry with them than Auburn. That was lost when we went to these divisions.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:57 am to jlovel7
LSU played Alabama, Florida, Kentucky, Ole Miss and Miss. State annually from at least the 1970s until '91.
When the SEC expanded to a seven-game conference schedule in '88, the number of rotating opponents went from 1 to 2.
What didn't make sense in the six-game era that LSU never had a proper home-away balance in SEC games during that time. One year, LSU would play 2 home SEC games and 4 road SEC games. The next year, it would be 4 home SEC games and 2 road SEC games.
When the SEC expanded to a seven-game conference schedule in '88, the number of rotating opponents went from 1 to 2.
What didn't make sense in the six-game era that LSU never had a proper home-away balance in SEC games during that time. One year, LSU would play 2 home SEC games and 4 road SEC games. The next year, it would be 4 home SEC games and 2 road SEC games.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:26 am to jlovel7
In the 50's-80's seems like we always played:
Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama, and Florida every year.
We played Auburn in '69-'72, '80/'81, and '88 -on. We played Kentucky more than Tennessee and Georgia in the 60's-80's....
In the 50s and 60s LSU played The U. many times.
In the 60's and 70's we played A&M almost every year - and it was always in Baton Rouge. Not sure why, and also Ga.Tech.
In fact in late 60s/early 70s we played 3 old SWC schools almost every year - Texas A&M, Rice, and Baylor.
LSU also played many attractive OOC games:
Oregon in 70s, USC in '79 and '84, Colorado in early and late 70s/early 80s, Nebraska in '75/'76, Indiana in '77/'78, Notre Dame in '70/'71, '81,'84-'86, and '97/'98, Ohio State in '87/'88, Wisconsin in '71/'72, Oregon State in '82, Wake Forest in early 70s, Florida State in '79-'83, and'90/'92, K-State in '80,
Ole Miss, MSU, Alabama, and Florida every year.
We played Auburn in '69-'72, '80/'81, and '88 -on. We played Kentucky more than Tennessee and Georgia in the 60's-80's....
In the 50s and 60s LSU played The U. many times.
In the 60's and 70's we played A&M almost every year - and it was always in Baton Rouge. Not sure why, and also Ga.Tech.
In fact in late 60s/early 70s we played 3 old SWC schools almost every year - Texas A&M, Rice, and Baylor.
LSU also played many attractive OOC games:
Oregon in 70s, USC in '79 and '84, Colorado in early and late 70s/early 80s, Nebraska in '75/'76, Indiana in '77/'78, Notre Dame in '70/'71, '81,'84-'86, and '97/'98, Ohio State in '87/'88, Wisconsin in '71/'72, Oregon State in '82, Wake Forest in early 70s, Florida State in '79-'83, and'90/'92, K-State in '80,
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:49 am to jlovel7
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As someone who has never known a world without an SEC with divisions I always wondered what scheduling was like before then.
It went through multiple formats over the years.
From about 1988 until expansion in 1992, there were seven games. You played five perennial opponents, and the other four rotated through the other two spots, so you played everybody at least twice every four years. This was great.
Before that, from sometime in the 1970s until 1987, there were six games. You played five perennial opponents and the other four rotated through the other spot, so you played everybody at least twice every eight years. This sucked, but not as bad as the current system where six teams rotate through one spot.
Before that, it was pretty random. SEC teams simply scheduled whoever they wanted. Teams went decades without playing each other (LSU and Georgia didn't meet a single time from 1953 through 1977, for example). Teams also didn't play the same number of games. Some teams played as many as seven SEC games, others might play as few as five. One year, I believe in the late 1960s, LSU actually only played four SEC teams, and a game against TCU actually counted as an SEC game for us just to get us to five. In some years, the difference in the number of games two teams played made the difference in who won the SEC title (e.g. 6-1 record vs. 5-1).
It was a mess for most of the history of the conference. Finally, in 1988, they got it right, but then they screwed it up four years later with the first expansion. Again in 2002, when they went to only one permanent inter-divisional opponent and two rotating ones (so you played everyone at least twice every five years), they got it back to about as good as it could be with divisions, then screwed that up again ten years later with another expansion.
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