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re: Kevin Steele is a downgrade

Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:14 pm to
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:14 pm to
So besides all of the defensive talk, does A&M have the guys to actually run the offense that compliments Chavis' scheme? I know they have WRs galore and a few stud RBs but what does the OL look like?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145252 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:15 pm to
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which resulted in what exactly?

Answer: one flash in the pan year
right, the one year we had it, we did well.
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aTm still has ground to make up in terms of recruiting[quote] our last three classes have been 8th, 5th, and 11th

[quote]He always had top talent at LSU to work with
hell have a defensive line that has legit talent, like backers that need a lot of improvement even though otaro alaka shows glimpses, and he will actually have the pieces at corner to be successful, safeties still a crap shoot. Just like you expect the quarterback play to improve, I don't think it's crazy to think our defense will go from being embarassingly bad to just meh
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16708 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:15 pm to
A&M is always looking 1-2 years down the road..obviously it's one long fricking road.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36630 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:15 pm to
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Been tryna tell y'all this for years


Hell, we tried to tell everybody that.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:16 pm to
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Heard this before



Yea, Mettenberger, who broke LSU records and started in the NFL as a rookie. The other time you heard it was regarding a true freshman.

Seriously, if you know so much about LSU, where did our D finish in the rankings in Mett's senior year?

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For the umpteenth time, he doesn't have to be. A marginal improvement on that side of the ball will be sufficient.



And for the umpteenth time, you need players who could make LSU's 2nd team defense if you want to improve. A marginal improvement with yalls defense will not get you past 3rd in the west.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:16 pm to
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John Chavis, based on FACTS, is clearly a better DC than Kevin Steele.


Get the frick out with your rational posting

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how he is handling things now (acting as though he didn't violate the terms of the contract)


We'll call it even for y'all pussing out of our series in the 90s

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Chavis has his work cut out for him at A&M.


Agreed. Any DC would. That's why we went after one of the best in the biz.

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Trying to argue that A&M's defense is going to be more talented than LSU's in a couple of years is a bold statement though.


It's not outside the realm of possibility (nothing ever is), but that's not what I'm arguing. We just need him to improve our defense from "paltry" to "middling." He does that, and we'll be sitting pretty.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38240 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:17 pm to
I highly doubt that Chavis will be able to improve A&M's linebackers. LSU never had strong LB play outside of Minter and Beckwith and Chief was forced to play Beckwith by Miles. I feel really bad for Garrett because his role will change from a rush DE to a contain OLB.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:17 pm to
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No, you just fall into Aggy groupthink too readily. Did you really just say that in a thread where almost every LSU poster is talking down the Chavis loss (aka something UNTHINKABLE back in November) and talking up the Steele hire (aka something UNTHINKABLE until Les also hired Coach O)? Glass houses Wade.

Are you trying to imply that a fan base that constantly gets called out as being schizo and 'hypocritical' actually succumbs to 'group-think'?

I can guarantee you that half of the LSU fan base is hoping Steele falls on his face, while the other half is trying to suck off the unicorn he rode in on.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55447 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:17 pm to
Don't think your sig escaped me, I'm a huge Duke fan as well. He was the standard.



Now back to arguing; Fill your hands you LSU son of a bitch!
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145252 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:18 pm to
Yea I really don't expect him to either
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70932 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:18 pm to
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Just like you expect the quarterback play to improve, I don't think it's crazy to think our defense will go from being embarassingly bad to just meh


this is fair and I think aTm will improve next year, but not enough to make yall hoop and holler about the hire. Or enough to win the west. I think yall are 2 years out from that. But I have no doubt that the west will shortly consist of Bama, LSU, OM, aTm and AU all beating up on each other.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:18 pm to
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Mettenberger, who broke LSU records and started in the NFL as a rookie.


DGAF about the NFL. I'm talking about what QBs do (or in y'all's case, don't do) in BR.

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if you know so much about LSU


Link to where I claimed this?

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for the umpteenth time, you need players who could make LSU's 2nd team defense if you want to improve.


Which is why we've sought out quality defensive talent in recruiting
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:19 pm to
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Are you trying to imply that a fan base that constantly gets called out as being schizo and 'hypocritical' actually succumbs to 'group-think'?


Yup, and it's amazing that y'all fulfill both roles, but Tiger Rant reminds us all of this on a daily basis.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:19 pm to
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sigh



Now you know how I feel when Wade claims I am just another drone from the mothership.

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Yall will likely get there, but it's not something that can be turned around in 1 or 2 seasons IMO.


That completely depends on what you mean by "turn around."

For me that is a top 70 defense. Chavis has produced a top 70 defense every single year he has been a DC. Something tells me he can get there in a year, since he has always done it. Something like top 70 next year, and top 40 the year after and I am as happy as I can be with the hire.

For an LSU fan it seems turnaround is a top 10 defense. I never expect to see one of those while Sumlin is head coach, so I would agree that is not somewhere we will get to in a season or two.

It is all relative.

Honestly prior to the bowl game I was more upset with the O than the D. Chavis is icing, not the cake. The cake is another five star qb and two new offensive coaches.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16708 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:21 pm to
=another loss to LSU
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38240 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:21 pm to
I think the secondary will be good though. Instead of playing press coverage I think Chavis will allow the safeties to play closer to the LOS and drop the corners back to supplement weak LB play.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:21 pm to
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Honestly prior to the bowl game I was more upset with the O than the D


You lost me here.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:22 pm to
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For an LSU fan it seems turnaround is a top 10 defense. I never expect to see one of those while Sumlin is head coach, so I would agree that is not somewhere we will get to in a season or two.


This.

We don't need Chavis to usher in a new Wrecking Crew. Hell, we don't even need him to duplicate his LSU stats.

Just improve our defense from where it's been the past couple of years.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16708 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:22 pm to
Howard Matthews is Chavis' lead candidate for his GA
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38240 posts
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:23 pm to
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