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re: Last football national championship for each SEC team

Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by NorthGwinnett LSU
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Arkansas= (1964) 51 years ago



quote:

Ole Miss= (1962) 53 years ago


Just because the Little Rock Observer and Tupelo Gazette named them National Champions doesn't mean they actually won a National Championship.

AP and the UPI all picked different teams that year
Posted by Hogsmoke
Tilly or Okaloosa
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:28 pm to
So, who you picking over undefeated Arkansas in 64? Alabama, who lost to Texas who Akansas defeated?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

AP and the UPI all picked different teams that year


Wow, thanks for bringing that to our attention. We had no idea.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Just because the Little Rock Observer and Tupelo Gazette named them National Champions doesn't mean they actually won a National Championship.

AP and the UPI all picked different teams that year



It was settled on the field. Arkansas is 64'

11-0 Arkansas beat #2 Nebraska and #4 Texas

10-1 Alabama lost to #4 Texas
Posted by boxedlunch
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Just because the Little Rock Observer and Tupelo Gazette named them National Champions doesn't mean they actually won a National Championship.


The FWAA was as respected as the AP or UPI in the 60s.
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:06 pm to
I've heard the '64 Razorbacks referred to as national champions like 500 times in my life, by like 500 sources. I'm inclined to say AP and UPI be damned. And a little [further] research on the subject reveals this:

In 1964 AP and UPI (and most others) still voted their National Champions before the bowls. Most of us know this. In 1964 both Arkansas and Alabama finished their regular seasons undefeated (10-0). AP and UPI voted Alabama #1 and Arkansas #2.

THE KICKER: Alabama lost the Orange Bowl (to Texas) to finish 10-1. Arkansas won the Cotton Bowl (over #7 Nebraska) to finish 11-0. The Football Writers Association of America, which waited until after the bowls to vote its nat. champ, obviously chose Arkansas. And it obviously looked superior to either AP or UPI, which obviously ended up looking STOOPID.

KICKER #2 (THE FINISHER): The VERY NEXT season AP waited until after the bowls to name its national champion.

I'm thinking given this information we can now ALL include 1964 with 1941 re Alabama's CLAIM on national championships.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:07 pm to
The offseason always brings out the best threads around here.
Posted by TMRebel
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2013
5430 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:14 pm to
What about the NCAA? Kinda ruins that argument, no?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68583 posts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Just because the Little Rock Observer and Tupelo Gazette named them National Champions doesn't mean they actually won a National Championship.

AP and the UPI all picked different teams that year

NCAA recognizes 1960 for us. So suck a dick.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84887 posts
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

Just because the Little Rock Observer and Tupelo Gazette named them National Champions doesn't mean they actually won a National Championship.

AP and the UPI all picked different teams that year


Yep. Neither school has ever won an NC in football.
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