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Offenses evolved to score more points. Defenses haven't evolved to stop them.

Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:46 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68673 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:46 pm
Offenses are just as much a part of the game as defenses are. So stop saying "offense is killing football" or "The HUNH is ruining football" because they got creative and left defenses in the dust.

Why don't you tell your lazy defensive coordinators to stop bitching about how the HUNH is no fair and make them find ways to stop it. Sure it's hard to defend, but that's your DCs fault for not finding ways to stop it.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 6:48 pm
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16323 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:49 pm to
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Offenses evolved to score more points


You should inform Hugh Freeze. His offense hasn't been scoring many points.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
58044 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 6:49 pm to
The rulebook of football is slanted to give offense the advantage. Has nothing to do with coming up with ways to stop it. The team on offense completely dictates the game and there is nothing the defense can do about it.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17571 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:11 pm to
A lot of the increased point production and move to offenses that try and get people in space has to do with a bunch of rules changes over the last 15 years that have favored that style of play. It's not one rule, it's all of them. Most importantly, we let QBs throw the ball away and we don't let DBs play very aggressively.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 7:14 pm
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18642 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:13 pm to
Someone mentioned a couple of weeks ago, a good way to neutralize an up tempo offense is to try and premeditate where a play is going before the ball is snapped. Most up tempo teams only run a handful of plays for most of the game, so the odds of doing this successfully aren't that bad. Jumping routes, play man, don't play zone and give any cushion. Could bite you in the arse, but it's better than playing soft and getting burned anyway.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
46513 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:22 pm to
30-0
Posted by UnAnon
Breaux Bridge
Member since Sep 2013
6436 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:52 pm to
All I have to say is Targeting and then Defenseless receivers.


The NFL has geared it's whole game towards passing to "make it more entertaining"
Posted by TigerBornTigerBred
Member since Mar 2014
1345 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:53 pm to
The Seattle Seahawks is the only football team that can play defense.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:54 pm to
There have been numerous rule changes which favor offense. Virtually none which favor defense. /thread
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 8:03 pm to
If the defense is ready before the offense is, does it get an advantage? No, because it's the offense that starts the play. The defense either has to be ready to play when the offense is or it has to wait on the offense. Do you see the difference?
Posted by NWLATigerFan12
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
12257 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 9:19 pm to
Undo all of the pro-offense rule changes of the last 5 years and the HUNH will go away real quick. Them fast little dudes running around the field will slow the hell down when they know it's actually legal to hit them again.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:22 pm to
You win the captain clueless award for January. And the competition is stiff.
Posted by Douglas Green
Atlanta, Ga.
Member since Oct 2014
665 posts
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:49 am to
It's not creative it's an abuse of a rule change in 08. The rule was changed for the amount of time between plays. This shite about offenses and center hover over ball while getting their play from the sideline which prevents defenses from substituting was not the intent. So corrections are coming Or we will fake injuries like a mother 2 can play at bending intent of a rule. Ha ha.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72276 posts
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:51 am to
42-3
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 1/18/15 at 1:58 am to
Wrong, it's possible that with all the new "safety" rules that game fundamentally changes to where the balance permanently shifts to offense.

Football is a better sport when the offense and defense are on an equal footing trying to overcome each other. It makes for a healthier, richer sport.

It's POSSIBLE defenses evolve to keep up, but it's also possible that shootouts are the new normal, thanks to rules that neuter aggressive defensive play.

You've already seen this int he NFL. Passing records are falling right and left overa nd over the past 5-6 yeras in the NFL and it has everything to do with the rules and reffing. Defenses have to play much more passive, particularly in the passing game.

Many NFL teams don't even run the ball at all anymore. QB's having 40 attempts a game is common place.

So it's not just defenses being crippled, it's running games too.

I want real football, not arena football, throw every play, score a TD every possession.

Touchdowns are only exciting if they matter and if every team is scoring every time they don't even matter anymore.

It becomes like basketball, the last possession or two will decide every game.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36194 posts
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:29 am to
quote:

Offenses are just as much a part of the game as defenses are. So stop saying "offense is killing football" or "The HUNH is ruining football" because they got creative and left defenses in the dust.

Why don't you tell your lazy defensive coordinators to stop bitching about how the HUNH is no fair and make them find ways to stop it. Sure it's hard to defend, but that's your DCs fault for not finding ways to stop it.



Since the offense has been given so many advantages over the years and quarterbacks are becoming more and more involved in the running game maybe the defense should be allowed to sub in a extra player anytime the offense goes no huddle... seems fair to me. But if you wanna watch basketball on a football field...

Honestly I'd rather just see the hurry up no huddle only be allowed during the final two minute offense. You'd only really ever run it when you were down or to score before the half. Teams wouldn't try to make it their overall package anymore so they wouldn't be as good at executing it... and football would get back to being what it originally was... lining up, getting set, and beating the guys across from you.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 2:31 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:43 am to
Lol. Since when do the residents of Dixie believe in evolution?
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 9:48 am to
Steele will find the answer the HUNH.

He will pave the way.
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