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5 star recruits of the SEC: Boom or bust?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:47 pm
Let's go with the last 5 classes who are now in the NFL or about to be (2008-2012). I'm using Rivals rankings. It's easy to see why certain big name programs have struggled lately....lots of busts and discipline problems.
Alabama:
Julio Jones 08: boom (NFL all-pro and college star)
BJ Scott 08: total bust-did nothing in college
Tyler Love 08: total bust-did nothing in college
DJ Fluker 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder)
Trent Richardson 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder)
Dre Kirkpatrick 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder)
Nico Johnson 09: somewhat boom (solid college starter, 4th rnd draft pick)
DeMarcus Milliner 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Cyrus Kouandjio 11: slight boom (college star, 2nd rounder)-although did not live up to hype
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix 11: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Dee Hart 11: bust(transferred, doing well at Colorado St)
TJ Yeldon 12: boom (college star, 2nd or 3rd rounder)
Landon Collins 12: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Eddie Williams 12: total bust due to arrest and expulsion
Auburn:
Michael Dyer 10: bust (solid freshman year, got in trouble, likely undrafted)
Shon Coleman 10: undetermined (got cancer, but now somewhat making a comeback)
Kris Frost 11: undetermined (solid starter, got a late round grade and returning senior year)
LSU:
Patrick Peterson 08: boom (college and NFL All-pro)
Rueben Randle 09:boom (college star, 2nd rounder)
Russel Shepard 09: total bust
Craig Loston 09: bust, solid starter late in career (undrafted)
Chris Davenport 09: bust-transferred to Tulane
Spencer Ware 10: mostly bust (decent college career, 6th rounder and then released)
Lael Collins 11: boom (college star, projected 1st or 2nd rounder)
Anthony "Freak" Johnson 11: bust (started 1 year, undrafted)
Jarvis Landry 11: boom (college star, 2nd round)
Arkansas:
Darius Winston 09: bust-average college player, undrafted
Texas A&M:
Christine Michael 09: boom-college star, 2nd rounder
Trey Williams 12: undetermined: nothing special so far, in and out of the starting lineup
Ole Miss:
CJ Johnson 11: somewhat boom: solid starter, likely 4th rounder -similar to Nico Johnson
Mississippi State: none
Florida:
Will Hill 08: bust undrafted
Omar Hunter 08: bust undrafted
Matt Patchan 08: bust transferred to BC, undrafted
Jelani Jenkins 09: somewhat boom, solid starter 4th rounder
Andre Debose 09: mostly bust, played a lot but likely undrafted
Gary Brown 09: bust, kicked off team
Ronald Powell 10: somewhat boom, solid starter, 5th rounder
Shariff Floyd 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Domanique Easley 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Matt Elam 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
DJ Humphries 12: somewhat boom, solid starter, declared early and likely mid round
Jonathan Bullard 12: undetermined: solid starter, returning senior year
Dante Fowler Jr 12: boom-college star, likely 1st rounder
Georgia:
AJ Green 08: boom, NFL all pro, college star
Richard Samuel 08: bust
Branden Smith 09: bust, average college career, likely undrafted
Ray Drew 11: bust: average college career, likely undrafted
Isiah Crowell 11: bust: good freshman year then got in trouble, undrafted (see Mike Dyer)
John Theus 12: undetermined, solid starter so far
Josh Harvey-Clemons 12: bust: got in trouble and transferred to Louisville
Tennessee:
Bryce Brown 09: bust: former #1 overall recruit, transferred, 7th rounder
Janzen Jackson 09: bust, solid freshman year then kicked off, undrafted
Darick Rogers 10: bust, solid player but got in trouble, undrafted.
Missouri:
Blaine Gabbert 08: boom, college star, 1st rounder
Sheldon Richardson 09: boom, college star, 1st rounder
Dorial Green-Beckham 12: mostly bust/somewhat boom: great player with awesome sophomore year, kicked off and likely 3rd-4th rounder
South Carolina:
Marcus Lattimore 10: boom: elite college star with unlucky injuries. 4th round
Jadeveon Clowney 11: boom: college star and #1 pick
Kentucky: none
Vandy: none
Alabama:
Julio Jones 08: boom (NFL all-pro and college star)
BJ Scott 08: total bust-did nothing in college
Tyler Love 08: total bust-did nothing in college
DJ Fluker 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder)
Trent Richardson 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder)
Dre Kirkpatrick 09: boom (college star and 1st rounder)
Nico Johnson 09: somewhat boom (solid college starter, 4th rnd draft pick)
DeMarcus Milliner 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Cyrus Kouandjio 11: slight boom (college star, 2nd rounder)-although did not live up to hype
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix 11: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Dee Hart 11: bust(transferred, doing well at Colorado St)
TJ Yeldon 12: boom (college star, 2nd or 3rd rounder)
Landon Collins 12: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Eddie Williams 12: total bust due to arrest and expulsion
Auburn:
Michael Dyer 10: bust (solid freshman year, got in trouble, likely undrafted)
Shon Coleman 10: undetermined (got cancer, but now somewhat making a comeback)
Kris Frost 11: undetermined (solid starter, got a late round grade and returning senior year)
LSU:
Patrick Peterson 08: boom (college and NFL All-pro)
Rueben Randle 09:boom (college star, 2nd rounder)
Russel Shepard 09: total bust
Craig Loston 09: bust, solid starter late in career (undrafted)
Chris Davenport 09: bust-transferred to Tulane
Spencer Ware 10: mostly bust (decent college career, 6th rounder and then released)
Lael Collins 11: boom (college star, projected 1st or 2nd rounder)
Anthony "Freak" Johnson 11: bust (started 1 year, undrafted)
Jarvis Landry 11: boom (college star, 2nd round)
Arkansas:
Darius Winston 09: bust-average college player, undrafted
Texas A&M:
Christine Michael 09: boom-college star, 2nd rounder
Trey Williams 12: undetermined: nothing special so far, in and out of the starting lineup
Ole Miss:
CJ Johnson 11: somewhat boom: solid starter, likely 4th rounder -similar to Nico Johnson
Mississippi State: none
Florida:
Will Hill 08: bust undrafted
Omar Hunter 08: bust undrafted
Matt Patchan 08: bust transferred to BC, undrafted
Jelani Jenkins 09: somewhat boom, solid starter 4th rounder
Andre Debose 09: mostly bust, played a lot but likely undrafted
Gary Brown 09: bust, kicked off team
Ronald Powell 10: somewhat boom, solid starter, 5th rounder
Shariff Floyd 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Domanique Easley 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
Matt Elam 10: boom (college star, 1st rounder)
DJ Humphries 12: somewhat boom, solid starter, declared early and likely mid round
Jonathan Bullard 12: undetermined: solid starter, returning senior year
Dante Fowler Jr 12: boom-college star, likely 1st rounder
Georgia:
AJ Green 08: boom, NFL all pro, college star
Richard Samuel 08: bust
Branden Smith 09: bust, average college career, likely undrafted
Ray Drew 11: bust: average college career, likely undrafted
Isiah Crowell 11: bust: good freshman year then got in trouble, undrafted (see Mike Dyer)
John Theus 12: undetermined, solid starter so far
Josh Harvey-Clemons 12: bust: got in trouble and transferred to Louisville
Tennessee:
Bryce Brown 09: bust: former #1 overall recruit, transferred, 7th rounder
Janzen Jackson 09: bust, solid freshman year then kicked off, undrafted
Darick Rogers 10: bust, solid player but got in trouble, undrafted.
Missouri:
Blaine Gabbert 08: boom, college star, 1st rounder
Sheldon Richardson 09: boom, college star, 1st rounder
Dorial Green-Beckham 12: mostly bust/somewhat boom: great player with awesome sophomore year, kicked off and likely 3rd-4th rounder
South Carolina:
Marcus Lattimore 10: boom: elite college star with unlucky injuries. 4th round
Jadeveon Clowney 11: boom: college star and #1 pick
Kentucky: none
Vandy: none
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 12:52 pm
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Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:48 pm to Monticello
I think it's too early to call Coleman a bust.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:48 pm to Monticello
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Mississippi State: none
NOT saying that he's a bust but Chris Jones this past season was less than stellar. If he can lose some weight though he'll reach his potential.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:52 pm to Monticello
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Michael Dyer 10: bust (solid freshman year, got in trouble, likely undrafted)
Shon Coleman 10: bust (got cancer, but now somewhat making a comeback)
Kris Frost 11: undetermined (solid starter, got a late round grade and returning senior year)
Dyer had two 1000 yard seasons, won a BCSNC MVP and an SEC championship. Did he screw up his last two years? Sure, but not a bust.\
Shon Coleman just completed his first season back from cancer. How the frick is that a bust?
Kris Frost is not a bust since he will be drafted next year
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:52 pm to Monticello
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Ray Drew 11: bust: average college career, likely undrafted
I understand it was probably time consuming and mind numbing to try and put this together, but you are dead wrong on this one. He's been an excellent player and he'll go in the top 3 rounds.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:52 pm to Monticello
appreciate your accuracy regarding Mizzou.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 12:55 pm to Monticello
And wasn't Micah Johnson a five star coming out for Kentucky?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:00 pm to Monticello
Was Star Jackson a 5 star?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:02 pm to Monticello
I would call Trent Richardson a bust at this point. Great college career but NFL work aint gonna last very long and then he will have to depend on that Bama education he got...
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:03 pm to Monticello
will hill is actually doing quite well with the ravens he's definitely outplaying elam
also jelani jenkins had a great yr for miami 110 tackles 3.5 sacks, 2 FF
also jelani jenkins had a great yr for miami 110 tackles 3.5 sacks, 2 FF
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:11 pm to Monticello
FWIW CJ isn't going into the draft this year.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:13 pm to Monticello
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Trey Williams 12: undetermined: nothing special so far, in and out of the starting lineup
He actually declared for the pro. I don't think "bust" is fair because I don't agree with the way we utilized him. He was pretty rough in pass pro but he always did special things when the ball was in his hands.
I could see him being a good pro in the right situation if somebody gives him a chance
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:13 pm to Monticello
Florida's list is missing cam newton...
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:16 pm to Monticello
Any legit reason you left of Cam Newton or Carl Lawson?
eta: Duke Williams and Montravious Adams
eta: Duke Williams and Montravious Adams
This post was edited on 1/10/15 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:17 pm to Monticello
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Trey Williams 12: undetermined: nothing special so far, in and out of the starting lineup
The last player that had his skillset at A&M was one Dante Hall.
Here were Hall's FR-JR year stats:
469 carries for 2639 yards and 20 TD (5.62 ypc)
17 catches for 201 yards
67 punt returns for 809 yards and 2 TD
29 kick returns for 652 yards
582 touches for 4301 yards and 22 TD
Trey Williams career stats
204 carries for 1343 yards and 18 TD (6.58 ypc)
38 catches for 330 yards and 1 TD
70 kick returns for 1684 yards
312 touches for 3357 yards and 19 TD
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:17 pm to Monticello
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I'm using Rivals
Why wouldn't you use 247sports' composite rankings that average all of the recruiting sites rankings? Seems like that would provide a more thorough look.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:28 pm to Monticello
Clowney had one decent season and one great season. Then he was lack luster, whether that be for lack of effort or the fact he was always double teamed. I'd definitely say he was a boom, but he was no Lattimore. Plus he seems injury prone. Not like Lattimore injuries, like his tummy hurts injuries. Idk.
All I know is our defense has sucked arse without him (and some
Others of course). So that's gotta mean something.
All I know is our defense has sucked arse without him (and some
Others of course). So that's gotta mean something.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:29 pm to Monticello
So Dorial Green-Beckham doesn't get penalized for getting thrown off the team, but Josh Harvey-Clemons does?
The more I look at this, the more I see this LIS.
The more I look at this, the more I see this LIS.
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:40 pm to Monticello
Is OBJ counted? Think he is pretty OK?
Posted on 1/10/15 at 1:43 pm to Monticello
Interesting to see some of those names again. Can't help but feel sorry for those guys who are projected 5 stars, have NFL dreams, and then never see the field. Tyler Love sticks out to me as a particularly bad bust. He was #1 rated OT coming out I believe, and he barely even got in during mop up time. I also remember thinking "Freak" was going to be an absolute star after watching his highlights.
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