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re: Attention atheists: Science says you're probably wrong.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:26 am to cokebottleag
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:26 am to cokebottleag
The older I get, the less stock I put into my Christian upbringing.
However, I do not understand choosing to identify as an atheist rather than an agnostic. Why not just say "hey, there could be a higher power of some sort I guess", not think about it anymore, and go on with your life. Unless it's an ego thing, which seems to be the obvious conclusion.
However, I do not understand choosing to identify as an atheist rather than an agnostic. Why not just say "hey, there could be a higher power of some sort I guess", not think about it anymore, and go on with your life. Unless it's an ego thing, which seems to be the obvious conclusion.
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:51 am to OBReb6
I identify as Christian because it's values and morals that are taught align with my views. However, I think there are many flaws in organized religion stemming from man being the ones who wrote the scripts and having personal agendas to accomplish, mostly political.
There is so much info and scripts redacted by the church that the common folk will never see. I think at one time Islam and Christianity and other religions were all one in the same and that Man destroyed it for political gain and pitted one group against another by tweaking the teachings. I think there is a lot more to the story of Jesus and why he was crucified than we were ever told. It's possible he really was a false prophet and that's why the Jews killed him. You're basically taking the words of his followers as truth regarding his miracles and resurrection without any documentation of such happenings from unbiased sources. Which is why it's called faith. Still though, there's so many scenarios that could have been the real truth that we may all be wrong. Hell the Jews might be the only correct ones, they are Gods chosen people after all.
That said I think it's ignorant to claim with certainty there is no God. If you look at the earth and how perfect it is and how it operates, it makes no sense that it occurred randomly. I think one only has to look at humans' capability of advanced thinking, emotion, reason, and innovation to understand we were specifically created in the image of someone to be supreme over any other life forms
There is so much info and scripts redacted by the church that the common folk will never see. I think at one time Islam and Christianity and other religions were all one in the same and that Man destroyed it for political gain and pitted one group against another by tweaking the teachings. I think there is a lot more to the story of Jesus and why he was crucified than we were ever told. It's possible he really was a false prophet and that's why the Jews killed him. You're basically taking the words of his followers as truth regarding his miracles and resurrection without any documentation of such happenings from unbiased sources. Which is why it's called faith. Still though, there's so many scenarios that could have been the real truth that we may all be wrong. Hell the Jews might be the only correct ones, they are Gods chosen people after all.
That said I think it's ignorant to claim with certainty there is no God. If you look at the earth and how perfect it is and how it operates, it makes no sense that it occurred randomly. I think one only has to look at humans' capability of advanced thinking, emotion, reason, and innovation to understand we were specifically created in the image of someone to be supreme over any other life forms
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:37 am to OBReb6
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The older I get, the less stock I put into my Christian upbringing. However, I do not understand choosing to identify as an atheist rather than an agnostic. Why not just say "hey, there could be a higher power of some sort I guess", not think about it anymore, and go on with your life. Unless it's an ego thing, which seems to be the obvious conclusion.
Most atheists think belief in a god is absurd. Why would they say "well, I mean I guess there could be one or more" when they don't believe it? Atheism is literally a lack of belief in a god.
For a believer it would be akin to someone approaching you and saying they have an invisible lobster on their head. Would you say "that's ridiculous" (making you the equivalent of an atheist) or "I guess you could have an invisible lobster on your head; I just don't know" (making you the equivalent of an agnostic)?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:51 am to OBReb6
quote:Good question. The answer to that question according to Jesus is that we are all sinners. God is perfect and demands that sin be punished by eternal death/damnation. Therefore, Jesus died as the substitute for everyone who chooses to acknowledge him as their substitute. Christianity is the only belief that acknowledges sin as a problem and offers a solution.
Why not just say "hey, there could be a higher power of some sort I guess", not think about it anymore, and go on with your life.
Agnosticism acknowledges God but believes he is not involved in that creation. What other person is there that lives like that. Any person who makes/invents/creates something is always heavily involved, often micromanaging. There is no logical way God would create all of this and then not be involved.
If atheism is correct, when I die I have lost nothing. Same with agnosticism. The same cannot be said for Christianity. See my signature for more details.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 1:01 pm to OBReb6
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However, I do not understand choosing to identify as an atheist rather than an agnostic.
If you're agnostic, all you're saying is that it's impossible to either prove or disprove the existence of a higher power. But this still doesn't address whether you believe one exists or not, and therefore, there are agnostic-theists and agnostic-atheists.
You cannot just be agnostic.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 1:09 pm to OBReb6
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However, I do not understand choosing to identify as an atheist rather than an agnostic. Why not just say "hey, there could be a higher power of some sort I guess", not think about it anymore, and go on with your life. Unless it's an ego thing, which seems to be the obvious conclusion.
Except that's not what agnostic is at all.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 4:09 pm to OBReb6
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Unless it's an ego thing
It is almost all the time.
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