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What does it say about SEC DCs that only one thought about Manziel going left?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:47 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:47 am
I mean shite, the Bengals just owned Manziel tonight, and claimed afterward that all they did was force him to his right. LSU did this two years running and made Manziel look mortal.
All it seems to have taken to contain Manziel was forcing him to go right, and yet of the DCs that got a crack at Manziel during his two years, only one figured this out?
I'm not even saying this to prop up my team here, because I think this kinda thing should be a baseline expectation for a defensive staff watching film on someone. I can forgive not figuring this out in 2012, but this wasn't some kind of sudden discovery late in 2013. The Bengals went to the film and located his weakness no problem.
To be fair the correct answer is probably "nothing, it's one isolated example among hundreds that SEC DCs see in their careers," or maybe "the NFL defensive staffs have more film and time to research than college staffs," but it's just mind-boggling to me that the Bengals can find that tendency so easily and only one DC can manage to exploit it worth a damn during Manziel's college career.
EDIT: I should probably clarify that Manziel is one of my top favorite non-LSU players; this isn't a "bash Manziel" thread by any means. I love his confidence and improvisational skills. It's just that this guy ripped the SEC a new one statistically for two years despite having a weakness that, as far as weaknesses go, isn't all that hard to scheme on. I don't see how that happens if SEC DCs are as good as we think.
All it seems to have taken to contain Manziel was forcing him to go right, and yet of the DCs that got a crack at Manziel during his two years, only one figured this out?
I'm not even saying this to prop up my team here, because I think this kinda thing should be a baseline expectation for a defensive staff watching film on someone. I can forgive not figuring this out in 2012, but this wasn't some kind of sudden discovery late in 2013. The Bengals went to the film and located his weakness no problem.
To be fair the correct answer is probably "nothing, it's one isolated example among hundreds that SEC DCs see in their careers," or maybe "the NFL defensive staffs have more film and time to research than college staffs," but it's just mind-boggling to me that the Bengals can find that tendency so easily and only one DC can manage to exploit it worth a damn during Manziel's college career.
EDIT: I should probably clarify that Manziel is one of my top favorite non-LSU players; this isn't a "bash Manziel" thread by any means. I love his confidence and improvisational skills. It's just that this guy ripped the SEC a new one statistically for two years despite having a weakness that, as far as weaknesses go, isn't all that hard to scheme on. I don't see how that happens if SEC DCs are as good as we think.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:02 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:52 am to Eden
Chief don't play that Johnny Football shite.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:02 am to Eden
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the correct answer is probably "nothing
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:03 am
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:59 am to Eden
Fire em all!!!
Except Muschamp - he's a genius.
Except Muschamp - he's a genius.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:05 am to Crimson Legend
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Except Muschamp - he's a genius.
undefeated vs JFF (1-0)
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:05 am to Eden
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I'm not even saying this to prop up my team here
BS. But someone needs to find a way to.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:07 am to BoominHogtown
I give Boom a lot of credit.
Yes, JFF was making his first start but the Aggies were really putting it to Florida and then Boom made some damned good adjustments that negated what was going on.
No other SEC DC had NO tape to go off of. That day, Boom did a solid job.
Yes, JFF was making his first start but the Aggies were really putting it to Florida and then Boom made some damned good adjustments that negated what was going on.
No other SEC DC had NO tape to go off of. That day, Boom did a solid job.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:53 am to CrimsonChin
There's no QB alive that would have been successful yesterday for Cleveland. Cinncy's D lived in the backfield all day....couple that with being a rookie and he was bound to make mistakes.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:55 am to aggiegreg93
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There's no QB alive that would have been successful yesterday for Cleveland. Cinncy's D lived in the backfield all day....couple that with being a rookie and he was bound to make mistakes
We got ourselves a live one!!!!!!
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:03 am to Eden
It probably means NFL players are better than college players.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:04 am to Duckman13
You would have thought Cleveland would have done their homework before drafting him.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:08 am to Eden
It's pretty bad how some teams made him look so good. Had he not been in a scheme/college that pumped him up to be the second coming he'd maybe be getting PT in the CFL
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:25 am to NFLSU
Manziel was an exciting player in college who kept a lot of drives going by pulling plays out of his backside. That having been said his WRs did bail him out a lot. I am not saying that to knock the kid or saying the Aggies got lucky or anything. There were an awful lot of fling and pray passes that the Aggie wideouts came down with.
That isn't going to work quite as well in the NFL.
That isn't going to work quite as well in the NFL.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:27 am to NFLSU
And how pretty bad teams were able to limit his success.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:27 am to Arksulli
When you are crowned GOAT after going 10-6 in the SEC you are ultimately destined for mediocrity at best.
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