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re: before you say we're still ahead of schedule

Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:52 pm to
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Bert has recruited for two years. Why is it he has depth and we don't?



Arkansas first year they got a 5 star RB who fits their system. To add to that they added 4 star TE Hunter Henry who is perfect for that system. He got two 4 star guards in Reeve Khoeler and Denver Kirkland. He also got Skipper who was a 3 star and I think a 4 star tackle on some sites. These guys were forced to play year one due to the lack of talent left on their team.

2014 they got Brian Wallace a 4 star OT. They also got 4 star OT Frank Ragnow. Also 3 star Jovan Pruitt and Sebastian Tretola who was a JUCO guy.(touchdown guy)

These guys are playing out of necessity. Part of the reason they lost so many games was because they were so young. Now after playing together so long they are starting to gel. It shows.

On the other hand look at our OL.

We have 5 star Tunsil. 4 star Aaron Morris who is coming off of knee surgery and hasn't been the same since. Ben Still who was a 3 star guy with only offers from Memphis, Tulane, W. Kentucky. Justin Bell was a 3 star guy who had offers from Memphis, MSU, and USM. Fahn Cooper was a 2 star player whose only other offer than Bowling Green was Ohio.

Recruiting hasn't been our issue. In less than a month we were able to get 3 stars Ben Still, and Robert Conyers and then added Pierce Burton and Darone Bailey who was a bust. 2013 we got the #1 OT in Tunsil, #3 OT in Golson, 3 star Daronte Bouldin and Davion Johnson who are RS freshmen not SEC ready yet. Last year we got the #2 OG in the country in Taylor, 3 star Tyler Putman, 4 star OG Jordan Sims, JUCO 4 star Fahn Cooper, Sean Rawlings 3 star, and Christian Morris who the year before was the #9 OT in the country.

Our guys just aren't there yet because we didn't decide as Bieliema did that we are just going to play these young guys, build the foundation with them, lose a shite load of games and when we gel things will come around. It takes time. I think our run game will be much better next year with more experience and better talent.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40911 posts
Posted on 11/23/14 at 12:37 am to
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Arkansas first year they got a 5 star RB who fits their system. To add to that they added 4 star TE Hunter Henry who is perfect for that system. He got two 4 star guards in Reeve Khoeler and Denver Kirkland. He also got Skipper who was a 3 star and I think a 4 star tackle on some sites.

These guys were forced to play year one due to the lack of talent left on their team. 2014 they got Brian Wallace a 4 star OT. They also got 4 star OT Frank Ragnow. Also 3 star Jovan Pruitt and Sebastian Tretola who was a JUCO guy.(touchdown guy)

These guys are playing out of necessity. Part of the reason they lost so many games was because they were so young. Now after playing together so long they are starting to gel. It shows.


While I appreciate the compliments I just wanted to clarify a couple of things you posted. Reeve Khoeler hasn't played a down at Arkansas and probably never will. Brian Wallace is redshirting. Frank Ragnow is our backup C. Jovan Pruitt didn't qualify and is at a JUCO.

The biggest reason we are winning games right now is the work our new DC has done on that side of the ball. We have gone from a defense rated in the 70-80's in scoring and total D to one that is around 20 this year. We also brought in new coaches at DB and DL in the offseason as well and both units have shown HUGE improvement this year.

If we can keep Smith from being hired away from us after this season then we might make a run at 9 wins next year with as much as we return. I'm obviously getting ahead of myself with that thought considering how tough the West is but it's hard to deny how big of a job he's done with our D in less than a year.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 12:39 am
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