re: Auburn is just not very good & won't ever win a ship' w/ Gus

I don't see any reason why Auburn can't get better on defense with better recruiting (and possibly a change at D-coordinator if the current guy can't get it done).

Over the next 5 years I would bet good money that Auburn has a better record than MSU and is at a minimum 3-2 head to head. MSU has a nice veteran team and a really good QB and could legitimately win the NC this year, but nobody really believes they are going to consistently be a top 10-15 type program like Auburn will be under Gus (and I'm not trying to say that would be Auburn's peak under Gus obviously, just that I think you can pencil them somewhere in the top 15 about every year under Gus).