re: What do you guys think about Tim Tebow?

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It's kind of pointless to argue with a guy who won't admit that a QB winning with his legs and his arm in different games isn't a sign of being a good QB.

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Are you serious going from not being able to complete a pass and having to run on every play to going to a game where you can somewhat pass makes you a good QB. All I am saying and have said is Tebow wasn't ready and given the right system and coach he would be good (said in 3 straight posts on this thread by me) and that he proved based on his passing stats that he couldn't pass and had work to do. Which by the way is pretty much what every NFL talent evaluator, commentator and scout said about Tebow. Your job on offense is to score points and with Tebow as a starter they averaged two fewer a game how is that an improvement. I wonder what changed that would allow a team to score fewer points a game and win. Maybe a defense playing better.

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That's pretty stupid considering Muschamp has fundamental flaws in philosophy

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You made my point thank you why keep someone in a position that has fundamental flaws and hasn't shown improvement.

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It'd be wise you just take a step away from the computer altogether, or at the very least buff up on your logic. You've had some serious problems with it in a couple of threads now.

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I had some things to say but they are kind of inappropriate for a PUBLIC thread. I guess you haven't noticed you are the one that seems to have a logic problem with a lot of people on here take a look at the Reel and reflections thread. The majority if not all are tired of your crush on Driskel. My logic is based on fact my job and life is based on facts. Please point out where my logic is off in other threads and then feel free to explain to me what my personal opinion based on what I see should be. Is this not a public thread where people get to express their opinion and have discussions which you said when there was talks of kicking people. How times have changed. I actually looked at every Denver game they won prior to posting my prior entry including looking at the play by play. Maybe you should do the same. It doesn't lie it shows prater making 50+yd field goals to either win the game or send it to OT where he won the game with a FG. It shows the defense holding teams to low scores for four quarters and making plays to contribute to the win and put the team in good field position. It also shows Tebow making some plays after stinking it up for 3 1/2 quarters.

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But they made them, and you say that the defense is the reason but I've given specific accounts of game winning drives. The defense was apart of it, but in the end Tebow and his team got them into the position to do so. And the Bronco's offense was sorry that year, no one would even call them mediocre. No one could have done anything wit

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And I have given specific examples where the defense did essentially win the game based on their play throughout the game. Getting 3-4 stops in OT twice and kicking a FG to win or the defense getting a turnover in the last couple mins to get the ball back for a win. But I also said Tebow has had a hand in the win but its not all him he made plays but the defense kept them in the game that's my point. So based on your logic if a game is 7-7 and the defense gets a interception at the end of a game and the QB throws a 20yd pass to put them in FG position the QB is the reason they win the game even if he only had 63 yds passing completing 42% of his passes. You shouldn't have to score all your points in the 4th quarter to win a game. He had 6 rushing TD's for crying out loud he didn't break a record Mcgahee had 4 ( He also had 6 fumbles Mcgahee had 3). I am glad you backed off your argument that it was amazing the QB led the team in passing TD's by the way that's sort of his job. So again with your logic a RB could have 2000yds and 3 TD's but a QB sneaks it into the endzone 5 times and has 400yds makes him a better player. Maybe its because those coaches getting paid millions with years of experience knew that if they passed they would get behind a lot so instead they managed the clock kept possession of the ball to limit points scored by the opposing team in hopes to make some plays on defense and some on offense to put up 14 on the scoreboard. Sounds a lot like Florida VS USC last year.
Cam Newton ran it 126 times for 701 yds and 14 td's. The difference is he also had over 4000 passing yards with a 60% completion percentage and a comparable receiving core. Imagine how their season turns out if they had a defense that could stop and hold a team to 17 pts they might not have lost a game.

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30~ dropped balls probably hurt more than those that are thrown away to avoid sacks. Especially on third and long. I'm pretty sure catching a ball that hits you in the chest while your quarterback is getting drilled would boost morale quite a bit.

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I'm starting to believe you don't watch the games at all. Yes dropped balls hurt and I have posted several times that the WR's dropping balls has hurt us I have also said we have had too many third and longs. We win the LSU game if not for a dropped ball.

I'm gonna tell you the same thing you told Road based on your posts I cant take you seriously anymore its not worth my time or effort to try and understand your "logic". At first I was joking about the troll thing but know I think its true.

In Internet slang, a troll (/'tro?l/, /'tr?l/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,[1] by posting inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4]

Seems to fit