Started By
Message
This is why I just can't believe we're only here by chance
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:52 pm
There comes a point when you can't wrap your mind around something. For some people it doesn't takes much, like me.
This is what I can't wrap my mind around.
*10 thousand years ago.
*If we give a modest 25 years per generation that would be 400 generations ago.
*If 10 thousand years ago your Great (x 400) Grandfather or grandmother didn't feel like boning that night, you don't exist.
* If he jerked off earlier that day, you don't exist.
* if he died of a cold the winter before or got sick of your great (x 400) grandmothers damn mouth three weeks before sexy time was to happen, you don't exist.
Here's the deal, I'm no genius and the math gets shakey that far out and astronomical, but just going back 15 generations gives you 16,384 sets of grandparents. Just 15 generations.
One single thing different the night any of those 16,384 couples conceived your next in line, you don't make it here. One ovulation period change. One anything.
That's too many variables for me to believe we aren't here on purpose.
That's just a measly 15 generations. What about going back 500,000+ years?
This is what I can't wrap my mind around.
*10 thousand years ago.
*If we give a modest 25 years per generation that would be 400 generations ago.
*If 10 thousand years ago your Great (x 400) Grandfather or grandmother didn't feel like boning that night, you don't exist.
* If he jerked off earlier that day, you don't exist.
* if he died of a cold the winter before or got sick of your great (x 400) grandmothers damn mouth three weeks before sexy time was to happen, you don't exist.
Here's the deal, I'm no genius and the math gets shakey that far out and astronomical, but just going back 15 generations gives you 16,384 sets of grandparents. Just 15 generations.
One single thing different the night any of those 16,384 couples conceived your next in line, you don't make it here. One ovulation period change. One anything.
That's too many variables for me to believe we aren't here on purpose.
That's just a measly 15 generations. What about going back 500,000+ years?
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 10:08 pm
17
Posted on 10/27/14 at 9:55 pm to Stacked
You look at it that way, I look at it as the cold harsh reality of nature.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:01 pm to Stacked
Nothing spiritual has yet to show itself in my life. I've looked for it since I was a child.
Ghosts, higher powers, spirits.. fricking Santa Claus.
I become more and more comfortable with the idea that we are one and done beings on this Earth. I plan to make it count.
Ghosts, higher powers, spirits.. fricking Santa Claus.
I become more and more comfortable with the idea that we are one and done beings on this Earth. I plan to make it count.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:04 pm to Stacked
quote:
One single thing different the night any of those 16,384 couples conceived your next in line, you don't make it here. One thing ovulation period change. One anything.
And someone else is. Not really hard to wrap your head around. No more magical than a piece of fruit, or a head of cattle.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:05 pm to Stacked
Cool post, Stacked.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:11 pm to Stacked
Everybody frickin
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:14 pm to Stacked
Pro-choicers gonna frick things up for the generations to come now.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:21 pm to Stacked
You laid out a wonderful example of how you came to be by chance and that makes you doubt that you came to be by chance? 
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:28 pm to Stacked
When I turn 70, imma start smokin weed again. And then frick yer gramma. 
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:30 pm to Stacked
You're being very non sympathetic to the billions of unborn ghosts that could have been your relatives.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 10:33 pm to Stacked
That's actually not hard for me to comprehend.
The hard part is comprehending how everything works in balance so perfectly. How the earth managed to be perfectly in orbit at the right spot to sustain life, how the earth repairs itself, how the living organisms live in a never ending cycle of balance. How Humans somehow are superior to all other animals...our emotions, thought processes, everything. It's all so divine that the odds of such things being created by chance are so great one can't possible comprehend that it could happen.
Sure we can do a scientific experiment, causing the right matter to react with one another in a chemical reaction and a simple life form can result of it. But that doesn't prove anything...because if that life form were to evolve into a complex life form capable of thought processes, then we would be it's Creator, it didn't happen by chance.
There is a Creator. We may not have all the answers, hell every religion could technically be wrong, but I damn sure don't believe we came into existence by chance. Even if the Big Bang Theory were correct, you still have to ask "how did the matter get there in the first place". We will likely never know, at least not until maybe after we die if there is in fact an afterlife.
The hard part is comprehending how everything works in balance so perfectly. How the earth managed to be perfectly in orbit at the right spot to sustain life, how the earth repairs itself, how the living organisms live in a never ending cycle of balance. How Humans somehow are superior to all other animals...our emotions, thought processes, everything. It's all so divine that the odds of such things being created by chance are so great one can't possible comprehend that it could happen.
Sure we can do a scientific experiment, causing the right matter to react with one another in a chemical reaction and a simple life form can result of it. But that doesn't prove anything...because if that life form were to evolve into a complex life form capable of thought processes, then we would be it's Creator, it didn't happen by chance.
There is a Creator. We may not have all the answers, hell every religion could technically be wrong, but I damn sure don't believe we came into existence by chance. Even if the Big Bang Theory were correct, you still have to ask "how did the matter get there in the first place". We will likely never know, at least not until maybe after we die if there is in fact an afterlife.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:21 pm to Stacked
In my family its a lot more personal. I had a birth defect that could have killed me back in 1961 when i was born. One month old, surgeons fixed my digestive tract issue. I could have easily died.
If so, our 4 kids would not have been born. My 2 grandsons would not have been born. All are awesome people as is my bride of 32 years.
All I can think of is God has a reason for everything.
If so, our 4 kids would not have been born. My 2 grandsons would not have been born. All are awesome people as is my bride of 32 years.
All I can think of is God has a reason for everything.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:30 pm to Stacked
quote:
This is why I just can't believe we're only here by chance
So much more that suggests you are right.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:53 am to Stacked
I really don't get your point, unless you think we(humans) are the epitome of all possibilities. I don't believe that is the case.
It seems to me that humans get weaker as time goes along. We need more to protect ourselves, just to feel more comfortable in the world we live in.
Electronic communication is really replacing real social lives, and we are losing real human(animal) contact with each other.
Here by chance? probably just a brief experiment that has already failed.
It seems to me that humans get weaker as time goes along. We need more to protect ourselves, just to feel more comfortable in the world we live in.
Electronic communication is really replacing real social lives, and we are losing real human(animal) contact with each other.
Here by chance? probably just a brief experiment that has already failed.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:42 am to Stacked
Chance and natural selection aren't the same thing.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:31 am to Stacked
Probability of every one of your ancestors reproducing successfully: 1 in 1045,000
That means in every step of your lineage, the probability of the right sperm meeting the right egg such that the exact right ancestor would be created that would end up creating you is one in 1200 trillion, which we’ll round down to 1000 trillion, or one quadrillion.
So now we must account for that for 150,000 generations by raising 400 quadrillion to the 150,000th power:
[4x1017]150,000 ˜ 102,640,000
That’s a ten followed by 2,640,000 zeroes, which would fill 11 volumes of a book the size of The Tao of Dating with zeroes.
To get the final answer, technically we need to multiply that by the 1045,000 , 2000 and 20,000 up there, but those numbers are so shrimpy in comparison that it almost doesn’t matter. For the sake of completeness:
(102,640,000)(1045,000)(2000)(20,000) = 4x 102,685,007 ˜ 102,685,000
LINK
That means in every step of your lineage, the probability of the right sperm meeting the right egg such that the exact right ancestor would be created that would end up creating you is one in 1200 trillion, which we’ll round down to 1000 trillion, or one quadrillion.
So now we must account for that for 150,000 generations by raising 400 quadrillion to the 150,000th power:
[4x1017]150,000 ˜ 102,640,000
That’s a ten followed by 2,640,000 zeroes, which would fill 11 volumes of a book the size of The Tao of Dating with zeroes.
To get the final answer, technically we need to multiply that by the 1045,000 , 2000 and 20,000 up there, but those numbers are so shrimpy in comparison that it almost doesn’t matter. For the sake of completeness:
(102,640,000)(1045,000)(2000)(20,000) = 4x 102,685,007 ˜ 102,685,000
LINK
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:48 am to Stacked
The chances of your individual self coming into existence were astronomically small, but so were the chances of billions of other individuals. You get enough highly unlikely events together and suddenly the chances of something happening become likely.
Kind of like Earth - everything is just so in our solar system that it almost appears too good to just be random, but if you look at the size of the universe, there were billions upon billions of chances for a solar system like ours to come into existence.
Kind of like Earth - everything is just so in our solar system that it almost appears too good to just be random, but if you look at the size of the universe, there were billions upon billions of chances for a solar system like ours to come into existence.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 8:12 am to Stacked
You are going the wrong direction in your analysis.
You ARE. Tracing back simply allows you to see the events that led to you being here. But the important thing to you is that you ARE.
Sure there are a lot of things that maybe could have led to you NOT being here, but in that case you wouldn't be posting on a message board pondering the probabilities of your existence.
You ARE. Tracing back simply allows you to see the events that led to you being here. But the important thing to you is that you ARE.
Sure there are a lot of things that maybe could have led to you NOT being here, but in that case you wouldn't be posting on a message board pondering the probabilities of your existence.
Page 1 of 1
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News