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Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:55 am to
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:55 am to
I really think Muschamp will have a lot of success somewhere else. It just didn't work here, and the main issue I see is player development. Every other team in the conference that aside from Vandy at least looks competent.

I don't and can't know why that it is beyond speculation in which I see no point in engaging. I don't think CWM is an idiot, meathead, or whatever else. What I do think is that, due to the mystical nature of football, Florida and he just can't get in sync. I feel he will go be a DC for a couple of years, get his head screwed back on, and surface somewhere with a really good team. However, I don't think it will ever happen here. It's like two basically good people in a relationship that for, whatever reason, just doesn't work. It sucks all around - sucks for him, the alumni, Foley, and the University in general. However, it is time to cut bait and move on, not really just for Florida, but for him as well. He isn't helping his own career here at this point anymore.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:05 am to
quote:

I really think Muschamp will have a lot of success somewhere else. It just didn't work here, and the main issue I see is player development. Every other team in the conference that aside from Vandy at least looks competent.


It really just comes down to Florida style football. His offensive vision (from Saban's leaf) does not work here.

It has never worked here.

And our worst years have been when we run pro-style.

I don't think it's all that mystical (although that does sound pretentious, I'll take those caveats), I really do believe it's as simple as:

I'm gonna march in here, run MY offense no matter what it takes and I'm not going to change.

Until my job is on the line -- then it's a mad scramble to try and put the pieces back together.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13341 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:17 am to
I actually agree with you Lucius. He just wasn't ready for a job this big yet. I actually think the guy will get a small time job with SMU or something like that. He shown a willingness to adapt but it's always when it's too late. That's more then you can say for some young headcoaches. He is a good recruiter, even in a blowout his defense only gave up 120 yards. He just can't completely abandon his offensive philosophies and will always start mediocre upperclassman on offense instead of letting talented lowerclassman take the field. Which is completely opposite of what he does on defense. He doesn't care if your a fifth year senior, if your not getting the job done on defense he will bench you with quickness. That alone amazes the hell out of me.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:20 am to
He has been snakebit at UF and the black cat that follows him causing a lot of grief. He knows Xs & Os on defense better than 99.9% of the coachs out there.

Lets not call him names...it sounds childish, when you don't know someone personally. Has anyone considered what impacts these coaches when terminated? Their families and the families of asst coaches? Fans are so unhappy these days and its a reflection of society I guess. Look at the rant board and as soon as a team loses one damn game they are up in arms and lose two games? Its comical to see posts made about Saban, now Sumlin and now Butch Jones and their job security.

I am not a sagacious person but it is easy to see what has happen with the advent of social media. Ray Graves would have been fired before he ever could have had Spurrier on campus with todays fans. Folks loved their teams back then and supported them through thick and thin. Coach Graves may not have been the greatest coach but he was fair and compassionate with his players.

All I can say is be careful what you wish for..if Muschamp is gone...then what happens if the next coach falls flat? Look no further than UT as prime example of a program that has been in a deep tailspin for years after Fulmer.
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