re: Bookmark : Stanford, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan St, and Minnesota fear SEC venues?

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And what I was getting at was that you were saying that wins in the PCC should not count at all because of the cheating going on.

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Okay, in the modern world They would have to vacate at least a year or so of wins but lets say I go with your point and they do not have to vacate any of them, it still does not solve the issue of breaks between the old and the new.

When the Western evolved eventually into the B1G there was no break in time which is why they claim being the oldest conference out there. Same conference, different name, but no break. The Southern Intercollegiate is actually the oldest but the Southern evolved from it and the SEC evolved from the Southern. The SEC does not claim ownership as the oldest because they chose not to, tho it could easily be argued they should. The Southern Intercollegiate was still in progress when the Southern started, and the same thing happened when the SEC broke off from the Southern. Using the PAC logic to link the PCC, the SEC could easily show the continual chain of the 13 charter members through all 3 conferences.

So,
Western to B1G = unbroken chain
Southern Intercollegiate to Southern to Southeastern = unbroken chain
PCC to AAWU = broken chain and AAWU to PAC = unbroken chain

While the SEC acknowledges MNC of member schools, it also shows the early years with an * and notes they are school school only MNC's and not conference MNC's so :


Football :
1919 – Texas A&M*
xxxxxxxx SoCon formed after 1920 football season and before 1921 football season XXXXXXXX
1925 – Alabama*
1926 – Alabama*
1927 – Texas A&M*
1930 – Alabama*
xxxxxxxx SEC formed after 1932 football season and before 1933 football season XXXXXXXX
1934 – Alabama
1938 – Tennessee
1939 – Texas A&M*
1940 – 1962 edited out for brevity of post
1964 – Alabama/Arkansas*
1965 – 2012 edited out for brevity of post


Note that each team in bold credits the former conference and NOT the SEC



Now got back to the PCC and PAC. One ended before the other one started. Unlike the B1G and SEC who started while the other was already in place or still going on, the PAC can not claim such an unbroken chain. This is my point, which you keep dodging around, is that there is a point between the two where neither exists. hence to separate and distinct conferences (not 1 continual one or one starting while the other one exists).

PCC | period when no conference exists | AAWU formed, and morphs into PAC

2 separate conferences with records accorded to each and not to a single conference.

If the SEC used the logic of the PAC, they could not only claim to be the oldest conference in america but also claim national championships of the 13 charter schools all the way back through the Southern and Southern Intercollegiate, which they do not do.

Why is this so hard to understand?